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Old 11-16-2005, 05:05 PM
tdarko tdarko is offline
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Default 10/20 live hand--small connecters/counterfeited

the villain is a tight player, i am not going to say he is ABC b/c his postflop play isn't, but his starting hands never really change. he covers me.

villain raises in MP to 80, i call on the button with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

flop is Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
villain checks, Hero bets $150, villain calls.

turn is Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
villain checks, Hero???

worst card here, am i done with the hand? what is my line for the turn?

on the flop its about 2 to 1 for him to draw to a flush, this doesn't seem like something he would do...but obviously he could.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live hand--small connecters/counterfeited

ouch. i'd check it back and start praying.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live hand--small connecters/counterfeited

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ouch. i'd check it back and start praying.

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praying for what? a 4? if villain has AQ you're toast either way.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live hand--small connecters/counterfeited

Bet again...

With your smooth call pre-flop... I don't think he puts you on AA or KK. Your bet on a flop indicates a Q in your hand. If he was behind, i.e. trying to catch an A or K... there is no way he can call at this point.

If he was slow playing AA or KK waiting to trap you for all your chips on the turn, he is going to be very scared you caught up by tripping your queens.

with so much money in the pot.... I think you have to fire a second barrel.

He'll fold way to many hands at this point to make betting a negative EV play.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live hand--small connecters/counterfeited

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Bet again...

With your smooth call pre-flop... I don't think he puts you on AA or KK. Your bet on a flop indicates a Q in your hand. If he was behind, i.e. trying to catch an A or K... there is no way he can call at this point.

If he was slow playing AA or KK waiting to trap you for all your chips on the turn, he is going to be very scared you caught up by tripping your queens.

with so much money in the pot.... I think you have to fire a second barrel.

He'll fold way to many hands at this point to make betting a negative EV play.

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decent 10/20 players shouldn't check/call the flop w/aces or kings in this spot. Tight player most likely comes out firing w/his overpair or at least put in a check-raise.

if you bet $300 he'll fold JJ-66. You can represent any card. if he calls, well, he's got you beat bad.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live hand--small connecters/counterfeited

Check the turn - If I had AQ I may very well check this turn.

If he bets the river - I'm gone. If he checks the river, I bet pot.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:11 PM
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Check the turn - If I had AQ I may very well check this turn.

If he bets the river - I'm gone. If he checks the river, I bet pot.

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this is better than my suggestion.
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