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Old 02-15-2005, 01:24 AM
happyjaypee happyjaypee is offline
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Default Two hand from a live tourney

Hi all.

I played a big home tourney two weeks ago, 138 players, 50$+5$ buy-in. The field is very soft. I know all of the few good players in, and I'm easly in the top 5. I also got a freeroll since I got my buy-in free for helping in the organisation of the tourney.

2 table are payed (18 players)
starting stack of 10K


1st Hand:

Early in the tourney, blinds are 50/100
all relevant players have about 10K

UTG (Aggro, has been raising and reraising preflop)
UTG+1 (Calling Station)
MP (seem tight, has'nt played a hand yet)
Button (Me)

UTG raise to T300
UTG+1 call
MP reraise to T600
I found T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the button

Your move?




2nd Hand:

Blinds: 2K/4K Ante: T500
20 players on 3 table, 2 out of the money.
places 18th to 10th pay 75$

UTG+2 160K(LAG chip leader, has been in every pot, the guy is week and almost unfoldable, but hitting as hell. I have been waiting for a good hand to double up on him but have been deal crap in the last 2 hours.)
SB 4500 (Low Stack)
BB 32K (Me)

UTG+2 limp for 4K
Folded to SB who push is tiny stack all-in for T4500 total
I'm in the 4K BB whit A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Your move?


BTW: I know the hand look kinda basic but I got mixed responce to my moves in those two hands. So I'd like 2nd opinion.

Thanks


-Happy [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 02-15-2005, 03:24 AM
Msogard Msogard is offline
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Default Re: Two hand from a live tourney

Hand #1:

Easy fold. A raise, a call, and a re-raise is not something I want to see with a pair of tens. There's also players left to act, all who have showed strength and may raise the pot again.

Hand #2:

I'd raise all-in here to knock the limper out. If my goal was to get in the money I may consider just calling the all-in, looking for a good flop or hoping to move up a spot, but $75 isn't enough to keep me from pushing. The fact that this guy is in every pot would make pushing pretty easy for me, not to mention your on a short stack yourself and may welcome the action.
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Old 02-15-2005, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: Two hand from a live tourney

1: With position I think TT warrents a call but may require a set to play on after the flop. 600/10K stack isn't too much to call given the multiway action and the very good possiblity that a set will be paid off if it hits.

2: I don't think a push here is out of the question. It may be a good spot to double if UTG+2 is willing to call with a weaker A or race you. Another option is just calling and pushing all in on any flop.
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Two hand from a live tourney

Hand 1: Fold. MP1 has shown alot of strength and you've got to worry about utg reraising preflop and making it cost too much to play for set value.

Hand 2: Easy call. You're way ahead of the hands that a small stack will push with here. See the flop and make a decision about it you're ahead or behind utg based on that. If villain is unfoldable he'll pay you off when you hit just as well as if you push now.
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: Two hand from a live tourney

Ok, so far we got:

Hand 1:
fold
call
fold

Hand 2:
All-in
All-in or "Stop&Go" (Learned that from Fossilman 3 years ago [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])
Call and play the flop.


Still got mixed answers, and they are the same I got. Any more takers? I'll put my action/results tomorrow night.

Thanks


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Old 02-20-2005, 05:15 AM
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Hand 1:

I layed it down. Both UTG and UTG+1 called the reraise

Flop came K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

On the flop, it was checked to the reraiser. He bet T1200 and they both folded. I was the dealer in that hand so I toke the liberty of looking at what the turn and river would have been and the [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] never came but the T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the river would have made me quad Ten's.

I am NOT result oriented and DO belive I made a good fold, but I really hesitated pre-flop. Had it been T1000 to me I would have muck whitout considering and T500 or less, auto call. Am I right here?

BTW: 5 out of 9 of my friends said fold before I told them the outcome, the other 4 said call and play for a set.


Hand 2:

I pushed, Bad timing since the Agro chip leader limped in JJ... SB had A3o, killing one of my outs. SB ended up making a wheel and toke the small main pot and I got busted on the bubble...

Here, every one agreed on my move but me. I reconsidered and reallised I could take a flop and make a decision there. What do you think?

Thanks


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Old 02-20-2005, 06:37 AM
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If you were pretty sure that the pot wouldn't be raised if you called from the button, I think a call would be OK here, just for the implied odds you'd have from hitting a set. But an UTG raiser and a caller behind you, that's scary. The guy behind you used the old "Sandwich" move (HoH).
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