QQ Prelop - Should I get away from this?

stabn · #1 01-25-2005, 02:35 AM

My friend wants to know if she can get away from this preflop, or could have done anything better. It's early in a Stars $1 multi. MP3 is loose aggressive and has been seen raising UTG with A2o and calling in Ep with K7o. She dosen't have a solid read on CO other than CO hasn't been too far out of line, but we've only seen 26 hands so far.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP3 (t2205)
CO (t995)
Hero (t2220)
SB (t1680)
BB (t5155)
UTG (t1775)
UTG+1 (t1735)
MP1 (t1595)
MP2 (t1730)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, MP3 raises to t300, CO raises to t995, Hero raises to t2220, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t1905 (All-In).

Flop: (t5525) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t5525) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t5525) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t5525
Main Pot: t3090 (t3090), between MP3, CO and Hero.
Pot 2: t2435 (t2435), between CO and Hero.

istewart · #2 01-25-2005, 03:07 AM

I'd probably pick a better spot. QQ doesn't look that great facing a raise and a reraise. Especially since your stack isn't too bad.

stabn · #3 01-25-2005, 04:16 AM

Seriously? The reraise is half my stack, and the origional raise is a very loose player. You don't think CO could be on an isolation play?

skoal2k4 · #4 01-25-2005, 04:23 AM

It's a $1 multi which means play will be extremely loose during the first hour. Just the way it goes. You have one of the top starting hands in holdem. The all-in might be a little extreme, but if you're gonna commit half your stack, might as well push. I don't see anything wrong with that play.

Robbie

stabn · #5 01-25-2005, 03:24 PM

Would you have played it differently? I think it's fold or push, i don't think calling is an option. Pushing i'm basically hoping MP3 folds and i eliminate an overcard or two to my queens and get heads up with the not short but relatively short stack.

I should have posted it like this in the first place:

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, MP3 raises to t300, CO raises to t995, Hero ???

Given that action, and the reads on MP3 and CO should she be folding here a good % of the time? Or simply pushing like she did? I think the read we have on MP3 makes this an impossible fold instead of a normal 'raise and reraise so queens are most likely no good' sort of hand.

SossMan · #6 01-25-2005, 03:26 PM

easy push unless you have a read to the contrary.

Sam T. · #7 01-25-2005, 04:22 PM

Easy call. We know MP3 is loose, so CO's raise is quite possibly an isolation play.

More importantly, both you and MP3 have the CO out-chipped by quite a bit. You can only lose t995 to the CO, but you can win t2205 from MP3. Unless you put MP3 on AA-KK or AK (which you obviously don't), folding would be horrible. Even if you lose to the CO, you make t200 by busting MP3.

Also, I would flat-call COs push in order to make sure MP3 came along for the ride.

obeythekitten · #8 01-25-2005, 04:36 PM

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easy push unless you have a read to the contrary.

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