Decision based on your ROI

GrekeHaus · #1 12-30-2005, 06:35 AM

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Your ROI reflects that you have an edge over the other players. It is possible to convert your ROI into that edge so that you should call and push dependent of your ROI?

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I doubt it. During any given tournament you have an expectation which is dynamic. So any game and any situation in any game will have different expectation. ROI is more of a general idea which expresses how well you handle all of these situations put together.

Furthermore, if you change your play according to your ROI, your ROI will change correspondingly!

The general answer to your question is what I stated in my previous post. You should only pass on a positive expectation play if you can expect to get a higher expectation later. In STTs, this generally only happenes early in the tournament, and only if your edge is large.

curtains · #2 12-30-2005, 06:53 AM

What GrekeHaus said is basically correct. People who pass up +.3% edges late in a tournament are very bad poker players in my book.

Bigwig · #3 12-30-2005, 07:16 AM

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What GrekeHaus said is basically correct. People who pass up +.3% edges late in a tournament are very bad poker players in my book.

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I agree. But how does this translate to early in the tournament? When I first started playing, and winning well at the $20/$30 level, I would pass large edges early. Up to what I estimated was a 10% preflop equity. I'm certain that's far too high now. If you knew, Curtains, what the EV was vs. the range of your opponents hands, what do you pass up on say, Level 1? Level 3?

slimbob · #4 12-30-2005, 07:59 AM

Do you call here with TT if you see (assumption) he has AKs? Assumption: Thats the first hand of the STT and you dont know the other player.

Regards
slimbob

yvesaint · #5 12-30-2005, 10:35 AM

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Do you call here with TT if you see (assumption) he has AKs? Assumption: Thats the first hand of the STT and you dont know the other player.

Regards
slimbob

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this is already answered, its a big ole yes

#6 12-30-2005, 11:00 AM

I was thinking about this lately.

You guys say that if you have a high ROI you should pass up small +EV edges. But don't you get a high ROI in the first place by making all the +EV moves you can? Curtains says this all the time: take all +EV edges, even +.1 to +.3%.

You only need a certain minimum edge when your equity when you fold is higher than what SNGPT says. When the blinds are high and there are few players remaining, especially at higher limits, SNGPT is right I think. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]