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Old 12-07-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default $11 flush on paired board

Sorry I can't get bison's converter to work (it doesn't read river bets, anyone else see this?)

#Game No : 3157266991
***** Hand History for Game 3157266991 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:18054693 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, December 06, 22:06:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 68007 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: bdkplayer ( $935 )
Seat 2: peterboroguy ( $685 )
Seat 3: profgant ( $2045 )
Seat 4: dezntz ( $415 )
Seat 6: UCMANB ( $900 )
Seat 7: dbrod ( $225 )
Seat 8: RowlfTheDog ( $750 )
Seat 9: jawhoo ( $760 )
Seat 10: nikal21 ( $1285 )
Trny:18054693 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jawhoo [ 6c Ac ]
profgant calls [30].
dezntz calls [30].
UCMANB folds.
dbrod folds.
RowlfTheDog folds.
jawhoo calls [30].
nikal21 folds.
bdkplayer calls [15].
peterboroguy checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, 7s, 7c ] (pot 150)
bdkplayer checks.
peterboroguy checks.
profgant bets [30].
dezntz calls [30].
jawhoo calls [30].
bdkplayer calls [30].
peterboroguy folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ] (pot 270)
bdkplayer checks.
profgant bets [30].
dezntz folds.
jawhoo raises [80].
bdkplayer calls [80].
profgant calls [50].
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ] (pot 510)
bdkplayer checks.
profgant bets [30].
jawhoo raises [100].
bdkplayer raises [200].
profgant folds.
jawhoo??

Thoughts/questions:

PF: Limping my Axs here is ok I hope? Is that only because of position and a couple limpers in front of me? I tend to limp my suited aces from any position in level 1 and 2 hoping to catch a monster, and get out cheap if i don't - along the same lines of limping small pairs early. Bad idea?

Flop: Standard take a cheap card for the nut flush.

Turn: Made my hand, now I'd like to build a pot. There are a few cards I'm afraid of (3 Ks, 2 7s & 3 2s), but I would rather both players stick around, so I made the v. small raise because both had played v weak up until now, and I don't want to scare them away. Most 7s will get the $ in on a non club river anyway.

River: I made a very small raise again hoping to give great odds for someone to call, since no one is betting at all. Then the SB min-raise. Call or push here? I put him on 7x (maybe 22), but since he's a blind seeing a cheap flop, that X could be anything including a 2, 9 or K. I've got ~400 chips left if I call and lose, which is not great but not out of it at level2. The min raise says he really likes his hand... just call?

Thanks for any thoughts advise on my play or thought process [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:49 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: $11 flush on paired board

I would probably just call the river against two opponents, because you aren't closing the action, and the guy who checked the river just called the turn after a bet and a raise. I don't hate a river raise in some situations (against a very passive opponent for example) but against unknowns in a 3 way pot I would just call.

Definitely I am just calling the river minraise.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:57 AM
DaveKForty7 DaveKForty7 is offline
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Default Re: $11 flush on paired board

I'd push and expect to see a hand like J7 at like 11s.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: $11 flush on paired board

preflop: I think limping with Axs is fine behind 2 limpers.

Flop: I tend to get annoyed with min-bets and raise in the 100-200 range on a semi-bluff and see who I'm really playing against. Any 7 or pocket pair is dangerous even if I hit a flush, might as well steal it now from those willing to go away. But, taking a cheap card really isn't bad either, just not my preference. Might miss.

Turn: you DON'T want to give them CORRECT odds to call, but WRONG odds, but then if they call they've erred. You want them to mistakenly stick around, not correctly stick around. Biggest threat is a 7 with 9+ outs to boat, so I'd think more than quarter pot is minimum. The 80 is asking only 50 for a 380 pot for 7-1, which is a correct call (you help him make a correct play). A raise to something like 200 cuts the odds enough that his call is an error (not knowing what the guys behind you are doing). If you give them an opportunity to error, they might still fold correctly, but you still make money. If you let them correctly call, it can cost you the pot if they hit.

River: I just call, too many players, someone might have that boat after all.
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