i'll NEVER try blackjack online again!

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this isn't the first time i've heard about this. someone also told me that, although he has no proof, he suspects that practice mode is VERY different compared to playing using real money.


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Think about it.

Why would they make the play money version HARDER to win?

I have heard many rumors of sites making the play money blackjack game EASIER to win -- putting more face cards in the deck or just simply rigging it -- to encourage you to play for real money. (Of course, this has never been substantiated.)

Making the play money game more difficult, though -- thereby discouraging people from playing normal blackjack -- would take a real braintrust.

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WTF, you lost $175? That doesn't sound right. Legitimate blackjack games have a variance of 0.

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[celiboy]

Dude...In about 5 months I have won about $1500 clearing various BJ bonuses and my hourly rate is over 30 bucks doing this.

Just this month I did a well known monthly one for about $300 profit. I'm also the most risk averse person I know.......

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WTF, you lost $175? That doesn't sound right. Legitimate blackjack games have a variance of 0.

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it was practice, Homer. i was using play money and started with $5000 and then an hour later, saw my money down to $4870something! it was unreal! sure, it was play money but what if i was playing with REAL money? also, i was betting $5 because that was the minimum intercasino would let me play (again, using play money).

i got a little angry (i don't know at whom) and was shocked a little because i've NEVER lost that much money in that short a time.

but, since almost everyone is saying how ridiculously easy blackjack whoring is, i've decided i'm gonna give it one last try. i've already deposited $200 (real money this time) at Casino On Net and i got the 100% sticky bonus so now my money is $400. i'm gonna play NON-STOP - 6-8 hours straight - today and decide whether blackjack winning relies entirely on luck OR there is some way you can do to help you win more (like following the strategy guides).

[jman220]

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Of course, if you had unlimited credit...


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The system still would not work.

[jman220]

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WTF, you lost $175? That doesn't sound right. Legitimate blackjack games have a variance of 0.

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it was practice, Homer. i was using play money and started with $5000 and then an hour later, saw my money down to $4870something! it was unreal! sure, it was play money but what if i was playing with REAL money? also, i was betting $5 because that was the minimum intercasino would let me play (again, using play money).

i got a little angry (i don't know at whom) and was shocked a little because i've NEVER lost that much money in that short a time.

but, since almost everyone is saying how ridiculously easy blackjack whoring is, i've decided i'm gonna give it one last try. i've already deposited $200 (real money this time) at Casino On Net and i got the 100% sticky bonus so now my money is $400. i'm gonna play NON-STOP - 6-8 hours straight - today and decide whether blackjack winning relies entirely on luck OR there is some way you can do to help you win more (like following the strategy guides).

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Based on your posts, you still seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of this game, and I encourage you NOT to play it. Blackjack IS NOT a beatable game. The only reason why people can make money at it is because some casinos will give you a bonus, and you won't lose the entire bonus while playing out the wagering requirements (but you will lose some of it). Playing completely proper strategy in online blackjack will still leave the house with an edge of at least .5%, and possibly as much as 2 % depending on the rules. You seem to think that you can beat the game. You cannot. I strongly encourage you not to do this, I almost guarantee you will bust.

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Based on your posts, you still seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of this game, and I encourage you NOT to play it. Blackjack IS NOT a beatable game. The only reason why people can make money at it is because some casinos will give you a bonus, and you won't lose the entire bonus while playing out the wagering requirements (but you will lose some of it).


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bonuswhores.com for details. you've got to do some research before you just dive into something willy-nilly.

- Mac

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Based on your posts, you still seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of this game, and I encourage you NOT to play it. Blackjack IS NOT a beatable game. The only reason why people can make money at it is because some casinos will give you a bonus, and you won't lose the entire bonus while playing out the wagering requirements (but you will lose some of it). Playing completely proper strategy in online blackjack will still leave the house with an edge of at least .5%, and possibly as much as 2 % depending on the rules. You seem to think that you can beat the game. You cannot. I strongly encourage you not to do this, I almost guarantee you will bust.

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started with $400 ($200 sticky bonus) and it's now down to $347. it amazes me how i've correctly guessed 6 straight times what the dealer's cards are going to be (2 blackjacks and the rest over 19)! also, i've played close to an hour now and i've NEVER seen the dealer have a card BELOW 17!

lol, wth?

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bonuswhores.com for details. you've got to do some research before you just dive into something willy-nilly.
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thanks for the concern, Mac.

i spent 4+ hours there yesterday morning and 6+ hours later that night. in total, i spent over 10+ hours researching this yesterday (gotta love my job!). let's say i've read 500 posts claiming this stuff is true, less than 20 of those are from ppl who busted out. so it's either the mods are deleting their messages or they're not posting that they lost or the house *IS* beatable!

whatever the case is, i have $347 left to find out...

[Guthrie]

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started with $400 ($200 sticky bonus) and it's now down to $347.

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You're up, not down. You only put in $200 and you got a $200 bonus. You're up $147. If you have played enough hands to clear the bonus, cash out now, and you made a profit of $147. Find another site. Rinse. Repeat.

You cannot beat blackjack without counting cards. Counting cards is worthless online because they shuffle after every hand. Therefore you cannot beat online blackjack.

You can make a profit, however, by taking their bonus money and quitting as soon as you clear the bonus. You have to play perfect basic strategy to keep the most bonus, and your chance of losing any of your actual buy-in (not the bonus) is quite small.

There's no reason for them to rig the game. Only bonus whores will quit after they clear the bonus. Most people will continue playing long after, until they lose the bonus and their buy-in.

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You're up, not down. You only put in $200 and you got a $200 bonus. You're up $147. If you have played enough hands to clear the bonus, cash out now, and you made a profit of $147. Find another site. Rinse. Repeat.

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now i'm down, err, up (?) to $318 (profit of $118).

originally deposited $200 at Casino On Net, got the 100% bonus so i actually started with $400. after almost 2 hours of playing, my money's now at $318.

now here's the part where i'm close to strangling myself - since i deposited via NETeller, under their terms & conditions, i have to wager my amount bonus 50x!

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...funds Deposited by NETELLER may be Cashed Out only after an amount totaling no less than 50 times the Bonus amount has been wagered.


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so, since i got $200 bonus, i multiply that by 50 which means i have to play/wager at least $10000 so i can clear my $200 bonus (which has now dwindled to $118).

great. just great. :/ with my luck i'd probably cash out around 47 cents (after spending 167 months at Casino On Net i'm guessing)! i really really REALLY should've just stuck with poker bonus whoring...

now, my money's stuck there, i'm losing money (in a rather quick pace) and i'm committed to spending another half century there just trying to clear my bonus!

lesson learned.