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Old 11-10-2005, 04:56 PM
CollinEstes CollinEstes is offline
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Default Re: Looking to Buy my first House, Need some Help/Tips

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Seriously, look into a one-bedroom apartment for a year. Your kid won't need his own room for awhile.

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Isn't this just throwing money out of the window?

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This is what my wife says to me too.

I am thinking though that I would rather save to get a better house in a year or two plus then I would need to look harder at Schools etc..
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Looking to Buy my first House, Need some Help/Tips

There are two or three recent threads on this. I know, because I started one in about July. Lots of good info.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:01 PM
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Seriously, look into a one-bedroom apartment for a year. Your kid won't need his own room for awhile.

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Isn't this just throwing money out of the window?

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No. Here is an article with some reasoning.

Overall, I prefer owning (have owned for a little over a year), but if you are the worrying type (me), it can be difficult. There have been times when I wished I was renting again.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Looking to Buy my first House, Need some Help/Tips

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Seriously, look into a one-bedroom apartment for a year. Your kid won't need his own room for awhile.

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No, it depends on a number of factors. He's out the equity he would have had from paying a mortgage instead of rent. Have you looked at the pay-off schedule for a 30 year mortgage (as an example)? The equity is disgustingly tiny in the first year, especially if he's only putting 5% down!

And that doesn't account for the property taxes, water bill, higher utility bill, etc, etc he'll get from owning.

Also, in lots of markets these days, the rental market is cheaper for the same housing stock than is owning, don't know if that's the case in Galveston. And he'll be able to make a much more informed (+EV) decision about where to buy after he's lived in the city for a year.

No, it's not just throwing money away.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Looking to Buy my first House, Need some Help/Tips

Rent. At least for a year.

Many good reasons have been given so far. I think the best is the "unexpected costs" involved in buying/owning a house. You may have appliances you need to buy/repair. You have maintenance costs (lawn/garden, household maintenance - lights/pipes/doors/windows/etc). You have more furniture you'll buy to fill up the place (trust me - even though you say you won't buy any, you will). You will spend a LOT more your first year in a house than you will in an apartment. Plus, that little bundle of joy is going to suck you dry [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Also, since you're brand new to the area, how will you know what kind of neighborhood you're moving into? Are you really going to trust some real estate agent you've never met before to get you into the right area? If you're in a bad area, good luck reselling the house in a year, plus you'll get royally screwed by all the fees/commissions you have to pay when you sell.

By far your best choice is to rent a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment for a year, then reassess where you're at. Saving during this year, which will give you more to put down when you do buy, will actually help you in the long run, because you won't be paying a higher interest rate on the second loan (or paying PMI) if you can get to 20% down. Even if you can't, you'll have a smaller loan to pay off. You'll also be better informed as to where you'd like to live (taking into account neighborhood, schools, commute, etc).

I speak from experience on this one (moved 2x in the last 2 years, once just before having a baby)
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:52 PM
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Also, since you're brand new to the area, how will you know what kind of neighborhood you're moving into?

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This is a really, really good point. Having just gone through the house buying process myself, I know that it's an overwhelming process at times. And I'm extremely knowledgeable about the neighborhoods we were looking in, since I grew up around here. Location is just such a key factor.

You have to also think about resale as well. You should be approaching this process thinking about something you can turn around and sell in 5 years or less, if need be. This is your first job out of college - you might not even like it after a year. There's no way to know for sure.

Given that you're starting a new career, and about to have a baby, the stress of the home buying process is really something you don't want to have to take on right now. I just did exactly that, and it's tough to get acclimated to a place while you're obsessed thinking about houses every day. Let alone having to leave work early to check out showings, do the inspection, sign paperwork, etc.

I would strongly recommend waiting at least 6 months. Get a 6 month apartment lease, save some cash, and make sure you can get into something you can afford. We almost bought a house when my wife went back to school, but decided not too because it was going to stretch the budget too much. That was a huge decision, because looking back at it, there's no way I would have been able to afford a mortgage+taxes+other costs of owning a home.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:29 PM
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Seriously, look into a one-bedroom apartment for a year. Your kid won't need his own room for awhile.

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Isn't this just throwing money out of the window?

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Here's a table that shows how much of your 'payment' goes into your house, and how much goes to interest. So, over the course of the first year, you're not really saving too much. I just made the decision to keep renting for now, and this was a big reason why. I just don't have enough to put down right now.

M |Pay | To pay | equity |inters | tot. int.

1 $900 $142,371 $128 $771 $771

2 $900 $142,241 $129 $771 $1,543

3 $900 $142,111 $130 $770 $2,313

4 $900 $141,980 $130 $769 $3,083

5 $900 $141,848 $131 $769 $3,852

6 $900 $141,716 $132 $768 $4,620

7 $900 $141,583 $133 $767 $5,388

8 $900 $141,449 $133 $766 $6,155

9 $900 $141,315 $134 $766 $6,921

10 $900 $141,179 $135 $765 $7,686

11 $900 $141,043 $135 $764 $8,451

12 $900 $140,907 $136 $763 $9,215




This table sucks, but hopefully you can get the picture (and I don't really know you'd be able to afford a $150,000 house).
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Looking to Buy my first House, Need some Help/Tips

The flip side to remember though, and something to strongly consider, is that the interest you pay is tax deductable. That's a great advantage even though you're not paying the principal down that much at the beginning.

That alone shouldn't be the tipping point for buying, but it's something to consider as part of the overall package.
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Looking to Buy my first House, Need some Help/Tips

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The flip side to remember though, and something to strongly consider, is that the interest you pay is tax deductable. That's a great advantage even though you're not paying the principal down that much at the beginning.

That alone shouldn't be the tipping point for buying, but it's something to consider as part of the overall package.

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It's probably not going to be that big of an impact to OP because of a relatively low tax bracket. That tax benefit is at risk in a way that may help OP however.

I would add my advice but without a helluva lot more details, I really can't.
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Looking to Buy my first House, Need some Help/Tips

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Seriously, look into a one-bedroom apartment for a year. Your kid won't need his own room for awhile.

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Isn't this just throwing money out of the window?

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Yea, I don't know why so many people use the 'throwing money out the window' reasoning when they talk about rent. Yea, you're not building any equity, so it sucks in that sense, but like some other posters have said, with virtually $0 down, your equity on a 30 year mortgage in the first couple of years will be very little.

Plus, things cost money. All people need food. Food costs money. All people need clothing. Clothing costs money. All people need somewhere to live. Places to live cost money. Yea, it's a bigger expense than other needs, but it's something you need to get, so you'll have to find a way to make it work. You're not 'throwing it out the window'. Housing is not free.
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