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Old 06-05-2005, 07:19 PM
duma duma is offline
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Default Why doenst the WSOP use Auto Shufflers

just wondering why they dont use them. im sure by now there have probably been hundreds of complaints about dealers at the WSOP. anyone know why they dont use auto shufflers?
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Old 06-05-2005, 07:37 PM
Nick B. Nick B. is offline
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Default Re: Why doenst the WSOP use Auto Shufflers

Ridiculously expensive. The problems with the dealers most likely aren't their shuffling skills.
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Old 06-05-2005, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Why doenst the WSOP use Auto Shufflers

With so many players and so many tables this year, it'd cost tons. And I doubt it's so much more better than normal dealers.
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Old 06-05-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: Why doenst the WSOP use Auto Shufflers

i constantly hear cash game players complaining if there is no auto shuffler in the table. obviously its there in cash games to speed up the game and to get more hands in per hour and more rake.

but why wouldnt the same be true of tournament play? do the tournament directors want to slow down the hands per hour in order to make the blinds change seem quicker than it actually is? but the main reason i would think is to prevent a mechanic dealer. i guarantee that out of the hundered of dealers at the WSOP, atleast one is fiddling with the cards, and it probably is more.
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Old 06-05-2005, 09:36 PM
Phill S Phill S is offline
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Default Re: Why doenst the WSOP use Auto Shufflers

There was a guy over in 'home poker' who was developing a small (drink coster size footprint) mech-shuffler that would retail $100-200 mark.

Itd be the go between of the hugely expensive items that are patented to death, and the crappy $10 shufflers that dont work properly.

Who knows, come WSOP 2006, it may be a guy from 2+2 to the rescue.

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Not quite linked, but go google the speed tourney in estonia that ran a few months ago. It had players limited to like 10 seconds a move, but more key it had multiple dealers - apparently it was getting in hands/hr ranges that beat full table online games.

It was by all accounts an amazing game and had a great set up.

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Does WSOP/WPT etc use multiple preshuffled decks in the end game? If not, i question why not? Hell we even use two dealers at the end of our university tourneys and we start hands as soon as one ends - it makes the game a lot slower in effect with a higher hands/hr.

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Old 06-05-2005, 09:37 PM
SNOWBALL138 SNOWBALL138 is offline
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Default Re: Why doenst the WSOP use Auto Shufflers

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[/ QUOTE ] guarantee that out of the hundered of dealers at the WSOP, atleast one is fiddling with the cards, and it probably is more.

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Why would you think that?

It would be pretty difficult for a player to bribe a dealer, because the dealer isn't known to the player before he sits down at the table. Whats he gonna do? Whisper "Quads over quads for 5 grand" do the dealer w/o someone noticing?
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:47 PM
Tony.T Tony.T is offline
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Because the players would still complain?


Poker players are idiots, no offence...
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Old 06-06-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Why doenst the WSOP use Auto Shufflers

The problem with the dealers is not the shuffling. It's the bad dealing.. We had a dealer that kept over dealing and giving players extra cards..

In the cash game we had one that kept exposing cards.
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