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12-19-2005, 12:54 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
Wait, "theft" is a legal term?
Please continue this fascinating line of argumentation. Way to continue missing the point... Hey asshat, if you want a long-winded substantiated argument, don't come to OOT. But feel free to do you own research, or ask a Criminal Justice Colleague of yours who also happens to be standing around clarifying the obvious to explain that the vast majority of robbery and theft is non-violent... Or you could just watch those after school specials. [censored] moron. 
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12-19-2005, 12:58 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
He actually makes a good point. Clearly you weren't referring to a legal term. So what did you mean by "petty theft"?
In my view no theft is petty. And clearly any theft involving threatening me with bodily harm is not petty. Feel free to call me an asshat as well since you seem to be really throwing that term around today. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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12-19-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
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In my view no theft is petty. And clearly any theft involving threatening me with bodily harm is not petty. [/ QUOTE ] That's pretty pathetic you would get that agitated over the theft of a few possessions. It's just stuff, it sucks, get over it.
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#4
12-19-2005, 01:23 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
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That's pretty pathetic you would get that agitated over the theft of a few possessions. It's just stuff, it sucks, get over it. [/ QUOTE ] I think it's pretty pathetic that you're willing to let it happen and just accept it. I think it's pathetic that yours and other people's moral standards are so low that they don't even seem to view theft as really wrong. It's not just stuff. It's stuff I earned. My time and energy are precious to me, and I don't believe that some piece of trash has a right to it. I think it's pathetic that you have so little respect for yourself that you place so little value on your time and energy.
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12-19-2005, 01:29 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
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[ QUOTE ] That's pretty pathetic you would get that agitated over the theft of a few possessions. It's just stuff, it sucks, get over it. [/ QUOTE ] I think it's pretty pathetic that you're willing to let it happen and just accept it. I think it's pathetic that yours and other people's moral standards are so low that they don't even seem to view theft as really wrong. It's not just stuff. It's stuff I earned. My time and energy are precious to me, and I don't believe that some piece of trash has a right to it. [/ QUOTE ] Where did I (or anyone) say that it isn't wrong? Where did I state my moral standards? Your ability to read sucks. I think your morals are [censored] up; you think ending someone's life is worth the $299 you spent on a [censored] Nintendo. Who [censored] cares? It's a stupid Nintendo. Find something else to do until you can buy another one. But please, keep finding your personal worth and happiness in "stuff," I'll be enjoying my life, thanks.
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#6
12-19-2005, 01:41 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
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Where did I (or anyone) say that it isn't wrong? Where did I state my moral standards? Your ability to read sucks. I think your morals are [censored] up; you think ending someone's life is worth the $299 you spent on a [censored] Nintendo. Who [censored] cares? It's a stupid Nintendo. Find something else to do until you can buy another one. But please, keep finding your personal worth and happiness in "stuff," I'll be enjoying my life, thanks. [/ QUOTE ] I read fine. Your view that it's just stuff, it sucks, get over implies that it's not really wrong. I'm pretty sure that if it were some one say, raping a five year old, your attitude would be different because you view that as morally wrong. Are you a thief by chance? Is that why you think it's fine for this sort of thing to go on and people should just ignore it? As I said, I view this "person" as no better than a cockroach. His life is valueless to me. He's a piece of trash that forfeited his right to live when he entered my bedroom in the middle of the night. You're clearly the one with problems reading. As I said, it's not the stuff itself that matters, it's my time and energy that went into acquiring it. I really don't need a lot of "stuff" to get by. Look at it this way, by taking what I earned by my labor against my will, he is, in a sense making me a slave. There's no piece of paper saying I'm his, but if I have no rights to what I work for then that's what I am.
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#7
12-19-2005, 01:56 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
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I read fine. Your view that it's just stuff, it sucks, get over implies that it's not really wrong. [/ QUOTE ] no you don't. no it doesn't. your post blows hardcore.
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#8
12-19-2005, 02:36 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
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As I said, it's not the stuff itself that matters, it's my time and energy that went into acquiring it. I really don't need a lot of "stuff" to get by. Look at it this way, by taking what I earned by my labor against my will, he is, in a sense making me a slave. There's no piece of paper saying I'm his, but if I have no rights to what I work for then that's what I am. [/ QUOTE ] I believe this very strongly. Unless you've been truly poor for any extended period of time, it might be impossible to fathom how incredibly hard it is to make any headway financially when you're on the bottom, and how even the smallest luxuries become windfalls that are proof of an enormous amount of time and effort in your life that it took you to get them. When a poor man finally is able to buy a t.v., it's an enormously big deal that means he has had to make some pretty disheartening and dehumanizing sacrifices, and when it's stolen, what is stolen is not just an object like a person with more money can go out and get tomorrow, but an actual meaningful chunk of his life that he'll never get back. The hurt is real. "It's only money" when money is plentiful. When everything comes hard, you really screw someone bad when you steal from him, and even deny his humanity. I think that this is one of those issues that is basically impossible to understand if you haven't been poor. And I do mean that. It's just beyond comprehension if you haven't lived it, and for real, not the fake broke that some kids think they knew in college, where help was always a phone call away if they just steeled up their nerve and swallowed their pride enough to ask.
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#9
12-19-2005, 01:46 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
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[ QUOTE ] In my view no theft is petty. And clearly any theft involving threatening me with bodily harm is not petty. [/ QUOTE ] That's pretty pathetic you would get that agitated over the theft of a few possessions. It's just stuff, it sucks, get over it. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think there's really anybody who doesn't get agitated by having their stuff stolen, whether they get over it or not, which I'm sure they do. And if you don't get agitated by having a knife pulled on you, well, I'm calling anyone on that one.
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#10
12-19-2005, 01:02 PM
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Re: Would you kill a man who\'s robbing you? (long)
yes there is a difference between theft and burglary. look it up sometime. you obviously didnt know that from your post. i hate teaching stupid people.
bwana
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