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Old 07-20-2005, 11:25 AM
BeerMoney BeerMoney is offline
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Default What\'s your 4th street play?

The raiser on 4th st. was a yahoo.

7 Card Stud High ($10/$20), Ante $1, Bring-In $3 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (6.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___????
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets ___

Total pot: (8.80 SB)
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:38 AM
jon_1van jon_1van is offline
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Default Re: What\'s your 4th street play?

fold...thats just too wierd.

unless ::
- you have been going crazy and you think they have noticed
- one of the opponents is a super fish and tends to go crazy aggressive
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: What\'s your 4th street play?

I strongly consider folding. You're stuck in the middle and may likely be reraised by the J.
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: What\'s your 4th street play?

I'd flat call because the yahoo could have anything, but his most likely hand is probably a pair of jacks.. I'd be more worried about seat 1, he probably has a big pair in the hole or 2 pair.. Straight draw and trips is a possibility but less likely here.. Against almost every hand he has you don't want the yahoo to fold since you're probably gonna need to improve to queens up anyways.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: What\'s your 4th street play?

as I understand it, the yahoo is seat 1 not seat 6
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:46 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: What\'s your 4th street play?

How likely is it that the guy with the Jack in the door would have raised on third street without having your Queens beaten? It seems fairly likely to me that you are behind him. The guy with 32o may be a yahoo, but yahoos get hands too. I think that the likelihood that you are behind, combined with the likelihood that this will get expensive, make folding the best choice.

If 32o is really a maniac and Jack is easily manipulated, you might try a three-bet to isolate the maniac, but you don't have to get fancy like this at $10/20.

Or I might just call and see what happens. I'm a curious fellow.

I might have bet out on fourth. Or were you planning on check-raising fifth? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your 4th street play?

What to do here really depends on how the Seat 1 plays. If he is a rock, then definetly fold here. If he gets a little crazy with his draws, you may want to three bet here. Calling is also an option, but I would want to try to get rid of one of these guys with a three bet.
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your 4th street play?

When I read this hand, my gut instinct was that he had 22 in the hole, and that's why he called the complete and then a raise, and on 4th he hit the 2 for a set and sprung into action.

Instinctively I wouldn't think he had 45 in the hole because two of his sixes are gone (The ol' rule of 4) and he wants you out of the pot so he can play with seat 6.

It could just be a buried pair of kings or Aces, but whatever he has it's either real big and he's excited or he's scared of you being on a flush draw.

my 2c.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:00 AM
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I folded.


Seat 6 folds and seat 1 takes the pot down on 4th.
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