Slow Play? #1 (PLO8)

[Jorge10]

The game is 200 PLO8 at party. My stack is 200 the same as everyone else in the hand.

I have Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the small blind.

2 callers from middle position, cut-off min raises, I call, BB calls, the 2 original callers call his min raise, 5 see the flop.

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img](19 in the middle)

I am first to act and check, everyone checks right behind me.

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img](19 in the middle)

Hero ?

Ill post results later, just want some opinions before I post them.

[Burdzthewurd]

I easily fold this preflop. You have no real low draw and QQ qith no suits, being OOP to a raise. Yes, it's a minraise, but your hand still sucks. And if someone behind you raises, you cannot continue in the hand regardless. So I think that's a somewhat medium mistake calling this pf.

You hit your money card on the turn, but you can't really like any card except a J-7-5-Q on the river. Only a deuce does not enable a straight on the river. Someting like A46x or A368 is very possible. KTxx is less likely unless they have two paints to go with it or A2/A3/A4s. You're a coinflip with a lot of hands with a flush draw/OESD, 3-1 favorite over nut flush w/ non-straight low draws. You can pot this, but be ready to fold this on a bad river if there are multiple calls to your turn bet.

[Jorge10]

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I easily fold this preflop. You have no real low draw and QQ qith no suits, being OOP to a raise. Yes, it's a minraise, but your hand still sucks. And if someone behind you raises, you cannot continue in the hand regardless. So I think that's a somewhat medium mistake calling this pf.

You hit your money card on the turn, but you can't really like any card except a J-7-5-Q on the river. Only a deuce does not enable a straight on the river. Someting like A46x or A368 is very possible. KTxx is less likely unless they have two paints to go with it or A2/A3/A4s. You're a coinflip with a lot of hands with a flush draw/OESD, 3-1 favorite over nut flush w/ non-straight low draws. You can pot this, but be ready to fold this on a bad river if there are multiple calls to your turn bet.

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I checked hoping to pot raise anyone that tried to pick it up. Well it got checked through once again.

River 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero ?

Check-fold; you have to assume somebody has quads.

[wiseheart]

As stupid as that sounds,
I agree. Quads have killed
me over the last few days
as per my other post, and
3 other times in the past
two days, out of like 500 hands
where overfulls loses to quads.

Gregery or buzz discussed it with
me awhile back, more common than
I thought it would be.

[ QUOTE ]
As stupid as that sounds,
I agree. Quads have killed
me over the last few days
as per my other post, and
3 other times in the past
two days, out of like 500 hands
where overfulls loses to quads.

Gregery or buzz discussed it with
me awhile back, more common than
I thought it would be.

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wow.

[ QUOTE ]
As stupid as that sounds,
I agree. Quads have killed
me over the last few days
as per my other post, and
3 other times in the past
two days, out of like 500 hands
where overfulls loses to quads.

Gregery or buzz discussed it with
me awhile back, more common than
I thought it would be.

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LOL

Anyways, this is a ridiculously easy fold preflop. This is also probobly the worst spot ever to check the turn. I really cant think of a worse spot to check in O/8. A flush card could beat you, a low card could take 1/2 the pot away from you, theres like 1,000,000 other cards that could make a straight. I think you have to atleast pot it here and hope to take out some players.

Edit: I dont like the river check unless your certain someone will take a stab at it. (or have a good enough hand to make a bet) Make a 3/4 bet here.

[gergery]

[ QUOTE ]
As stupid as that sounds,
I agree. Quads have killed
me over the last few days
as per my other post, and
3 other times in the past
two days, out of like 500 hands
where overfulls loses to quads.

Gregery or buzz discussed it with
me awhile back, more common than
I thought it would be.

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Don’t drag me into this strange thread. I almost never worry about quads, particularly in LO8.

And "slowplaying" is a term used to describe when you have a monster hand. That is not the case here.

[emptyshell]

Jesus, this forum has gone to sh!t since Wintermute, RawBabies and company were chased off.

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Check-fold; you have to assume somebody has quads.

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That's horrendous advice. I guess you should fold every time you get a full house. Don't listen to this, it's bad advice. Every <u>once</u> in a while, some one will have quads. So what? You're online, you have no tells and second nuts. Check-fold? What a joke.