PS 10/1: Can I avoid going broke here?

#1 12-08-2005, 08:14 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t1430)
SB (t2060)
Hero (t2540)
UTG (t1530)
MP1 (t2070)
MP2 (t2220)
CO (t1650)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 calls t30, 1 fold, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero raises to t180, MP2 calls t150, Button folds, SB folds.

Flop: (t420) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t300, MP2 raises to t600, Hero raises to t2360, MP2 calls t1440 (All-In).

Turn: (t4820) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4820) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t4820

#2 12-08-2005, 08:32 PM

Villian had KK, and he limped with it, so I had no idea what he might have had. I thought he might have something like 99 or TT. No reads since it's early game.

#3 12-08-2005, 08:37 PM

The fact that it is early game and that you are only holding jacks should have caused you to not reraise all in. You are only going to get called by the Ace high flush, a made flush (maybe), trips or a higher pocket pair. Those are alot of possible hands considering you raised. The only way to not go broke playing JJ in your situation is not to push so hard with them.

#4 12-08-2005, 08:51 PM

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The fact that it is early game and that you are only holding jacks should have caused you to not reraise all in. You are only going to get called by the Ace high flush, a made flush (maybe), trips or a higher pocket pair. Those are alot of possible hands considering you raised. The only way to not go broke playing JJ in your situation is not to push so hard with them.

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It's a 11$. Villain could make this raise with overcards, draws, top pair, bottom pair, small overpairs etc.
Sometimes he has hero beat. I go broke here.

EDIT: Didn't even look at the stacks. I don't think it would be horrible to call his flop raise and proceed with caution.

Nick M · #5 12-08-2005, 08:53 PM

limp preflop, you could probably get away from it then.

#6 12-08-2005, 08:56 PM

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limp preflop, you could probably get away from it then.

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I think the raise is fine (so is checking). He should raise if he can handle jacks OOP.

Nick M · #7 12-08-2005, 09:00 PM

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I think the raise is fine

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raising 6x the bb and using 10% of your stack to do it with, is not what I would call fine. Especially if you're going to do it with a really horrible hand like jacks.

#8 12-08-2005, 09:14 PM

Jacks are horrible? Guess I don't get aces as often as you. Raising 7% of your stack is fine too.

mlagoo · #9 12-08-2005, 09:15 PM

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#10 12-08-2005, 09:18 PM

I hate jacks early game, absolutely hate them. I jump up and down when I don't go broke on them (hmmm is it me or the jacks?). I'm going to start limp/folding them early on until we get past our "trust issues".