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Old 12-20-2005, 04:17 PM
Garland Garland is offline
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Default NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

I've just "donkeyed" off about $700 on this table. I've been perceived as tight/aggressive, but also running bad and unlucky.

Opponents are basically donkeys. Main villain, button, is extremely loose and somewhat aggressive. Preflop, he calls big raises on speculative hands, and probably plays 40% of his hands pre-flop. He calls big bets on draws, but raises made hands. I have ~$400, and the opponents have me covered.

3 limpers to me, and I have Td 5s in the SB and call the extra $2, BB knocks. The flop comes:

Qc 5d 5c. (Pot = $25) I bet $20, call by two limpers. Button raises to $100.

What should I do?

Garland
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:29 PM
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fold preflop
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

With your image and your read on the button, push. Button will most likely call with any Q and considering how many 5's are already accounted for, it is unlikely he has one. He most likely has a flush draw and/or a Q.

BTW, nice job on L@TB last night.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

I remember reading a post by Mat Flynn in the high NL forum once about there being reasons to fold your small blind in deeper stacked games, and it described a situation very similiar to this. But very tough to do in a loose, live, game. I think it's a push based on your read, would he limp on the button with QQ, if not push and hope he does not flip over a better kicker.
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Old 12-20-2005, 07:02 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

I think that the push looks good, too.

For the reasons that others mentioned, and for the reason that he might have a 5. If he does, you probably have him outkicked.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

This should be an easy push considering villain description and the fact that your stack is pretty short and you haven't been running well.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

Given what you described push!
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

Im not so sure abotu a push. If he plays 40% of his hands then A5s or not as well as K5s (Q5s?) are well within his hand range. So if he has a 5, its probably 50/50 who has the bigger kicker.

If youre willing to get all in, why not just call the raise and get it in on the turn so he cant fold a Q?
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

Shove it in and hope he doesn't pull a club(assuming he calls).
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: NL200...3/5 Blinds at Bicycle Casino

villian is LAG but is he a "thinking lag"? If so you need to reevaluate. Flop is Q55 with a flush draw it goes bet and 2 callers. I can assume 1 caller has a flush draw, 1 has a queen and 1 has a 5. Well if he is a "thinking player" there is little chance he has a Q here and is raising it.

It's been bet and flat called by 2 players (he has to think 1 player has a 5). Any thinking player with even AQ is not raising this with the previous action. he may have A5, 56, 54, or K5 suited.

if you were deeper stacked I might worry but you started with 400 and now have less than 80 blinds. I push but I expect to be behind 1/2 the time and draw out sometimes. So I push and suckout if I'm behind
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