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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
*grunch*
Against a villian with this high a PFR% I'd 3-bet preflop. Flop is an easy raise. Your hand is strong, but certainly does not fit all the requirements for a slowplay--most specially, Kx still has a redraw to the full house. Raise again on the turn if bet into again. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
raise or fold preflop, calling seems pretty bad here.
i probably fold, but i think reraising is higher +ev |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
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Cap river. How come you only called??? [/ QUOTE ] Cause I was beat? Why would he 3-bet if he couldn't beat a king? [ QUOTE ] *grunch* Against a villian with this high a PFR% I'd 3-bet preflop. Flop is an easy raise. Your hand is strong, but certainly does not fit all the requirements for a slowplay--most specially, Kx still has a redraw to the full house. Raise again on the turn if bet into again. [/ QUOTE ] Kx has a redraw to a full house, sure, but is kx folding to a bet and a raise? Hell no. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
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[ QUOTE ] Cap river. How come you only called??? [/ QUOTE ] Cause I was beat? Why would he 3-bet if he couldn't beat a king? [/ QUOTE ] I doubt he puts you on the K since you waited until the river to raise. If you had raised on the flop or turn and he still 3-bets you on the river then I might just call thinking he spiked his other card. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
*grunch* I'd raise the flop and call down if reraised. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
:grunch:
Either raise the flop or call the flop and raise the turn. The likely preflop raise hands you are behind are AA and AK. But since you decided until the river to raise you might as well cap it because MP2 isn't going to put you on a K. If possible, I would have raised the flop in hopes of using MP2's lagginess to trap the other two. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
grunch,
Ugh! What are you doing? Preflop against this LAG, raise for christ sake! I can see maybe waiting for the turn to raise your trips, but depending on how passive the rest of the table is, I might consider raising the flop too if I thought they'd cold call 2. Definately raise the turn and keep leaning on the raise button the rest of the hand. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
I am not a fan of a preflop cold call with KQo even in position. If you do want t get in this pot, Make it 3 bets and isolate this guy, and force the UTG to cold call if he wants to play.
If MP2 will bluff all the way post flop, your flop call is fine for inducing a turn bet that you can then raise. Cap the river, if he is a lag, your hand in this situation will be better than his a fare amount of the time. Despite the time you are beat I thinking caping is a profitable play. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
*Grunch*
-According to what I've seen, cold calling KQo is not what you want to do. I would have folded preflop. -You should have definitely raised this flop. If you got re-raised, then I'd start thinking he'd had another king. If he just called, I'd bet the crap outta the turn and river. - Why wait until the river to start betting? Your pot equity is HUGE after the flop! He's aggressive enough to get A LOT of bets in. I think in general you played this hand very passively and very much missed many value bets. |
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Re: KQ flops trips against laggy PF raiser
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*Grunch* -According to what I've seen, cold calling KQo is not what you want to do. I would have folded preflop. -You should have definitely raised this flop. If you got re-raised, then I'd start thinking he'd had another king. If he just called, I'd bet the crap outta the turn and river. - Why wait until the river to start betting? Your pot equity is HUGE after the flop! He's aggressive enough to get A LOT of bets in. I think in general you played this hand very passively and very much missed many value bets. [/ QUOTE ] What does grunch mean anyway? I guess I have to respect what everyone is saying about folding or raising pre-flop, but what am I supposed to do when it gets capped and I don't hit the flop (happens the majority of the time)? I just threw away an extra big bet and drove out the overcallers to my left. Why do I want to do this again? As for waiting until the river to raise, he only had a measely pair of 6s. If I'd shown strength on the flop, he'd have let his hand go pretty quickly. I got more bets out of him by letting him lead each round. I don't think that point is very debatable. |
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