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Old 11-15-2005, 02:24 PM
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Andruw Jones is just as much of an MVP in 2005 as Pujols or Lee.
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:26 PM
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Jones should win it. If I had to guess the voting went 55% to Jones, 45% to Pujols.
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:30 PM
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Andruw Jones shouldn't come close to the MVP award.

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Old 11-15-2005, 04:54 PM
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Andruw Jones is just as much of an MVP in 2005 as Pujols or Lee.

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Sorry, my MVP does a little better than a .721 OPS with RISP. See Albert's 1.093 or Derrek's 1.113.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:08 PM
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Andruw Jones is just as much of an MVP in 2005 as Pujols or Lee.

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Sorry, my MVP does a little better than a .721 OPS with RISP. See Albert's 1.093 or Derrek's 1.113.

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How about carry a team into the playoffs? Have a career year at the plate while still playing a better CF than anyone else in the majors?

He deserves what he got. 2nd place.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:01 PM
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On a team with Marcus Giles, Chipper Jones, Rafael Furcal, and John Smoltz, Andruw Jones carried the Braves to the playoffs?

What. the. [censored]. ever.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:39 PM
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LOL. You're right.

Chipper: 109 games, 21 HR, 72 RBI
Giles: 15 HR, 63 RBI
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:19 PM
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If Lee or Pujols won, I would have been fine witht he choice, Jones would have been a horrible choice. As much as I hate Pujols and the Cards, he's a monster and deserved the award.
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Old 11-16-2005, 12:03 AM
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How the Albert have less protection than Andruw Jones????

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I know that So Taguchi is pretty intimidating, but I had no idea he was this feared.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:20 PM
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LOL. You're right.

Chipper: 109 games, 21 HR, 72 RBI
Giles: 15 HR, 63 RBI

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RISP
Giles: .291/.395/.489
Chipper: .286/.438/.476

Look, I'm not saying Andruw's a failure or a horrible person or that he's unclutch. He'll probably always do worse in RISP given his profile (low BA, high-K hitter). But he's overvalued because he doesn't get on base and doesn't do well in RISP. He's a very good player, one of the 20 best in the bigs last year. He's not an MVP, and in no way did he carry this team (which had a sub-4 ERA). Now, Andruw's part of the reason for that superb defense, but so are Langerhans, Furcal, Giles, and LaRoche.
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