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Old 12-05-2005, 12:49 AM
PartySNGer PartySNGer is offline
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Default Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

Flame if you want, but I was 95% sure he had AA, and I made the correct laydown. And sorry, dont know how to use converter/

NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee
Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 4: Hero ( $1000 )
Seat 9: x_Scratchy_x ( $975 )
Seat 1: Zigrano ( $1265 )
Seat 3: yachtgod ( $1980 )
Seat 2: bigj0e04 ( $970 )
Seat 5: ghostdogg10 ( $880 )
Seat 10: HoopsUD ( $890 )
Seat 7: RJ2520 ( $2040 )
Trny:17999075 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kh Kc ]
yachtgod raises [50].
Hero calls [50].
ghostdogg10 folds.
RJ2520 raises [200].
x_Scratchy_x folds.
HoopsUD folds.
Zigrano folds.
bigj0e04 folds.
yachtgod raises [400].
Hero folds.
RJ2520 calls [250].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 2s, Js ]
yachtgod bets [200].
RJ2520 folds.
yachtgod shows [ Ad, As ] a pair of aces.
yachtgod wins 1175 chips
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

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Old 12-05-2005, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

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Flame if you want,

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Well, at least you know it was a bad fold.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!


Arriving late to the table, seeing raise~reraise~rereraise warrents a "hmmmmmm", but how could you possibly put him on only those two hand combinations facing the initial riase? How come no reraise?
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:52 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

I don't like your pf smooth call.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

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Flame if you want,

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Well, at least you know it was a bad fold.

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if hero has reads from previous tourneys (strong reads), then I don't think this is a flat out bad fold. questionable, yes, but not "bad". Reads exist for a reason.

To the OP: if you thought he had AA based on the action that happened during the hand, and not based on previous tourney's reads, IMO it was a bad fold.


>>>ZIPPPY
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:55 AM
PartySNGer PartySNGer is offline
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

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I don't like your pf smooth call.

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I guess I just like to let the action come to me PF with KK and QQ and make a move when no overcard comes. This is of course in a raised pot, I would put in the first raise in an unraised pot.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

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I don't like your pf smooth call.

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I guess I just like to let the action come to me PF with KK and QQ

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stop doing that and you will win far more money than this one time you managed to find a possibly barely right, possibly wrong fold
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

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Flame if you want,

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Well, at least you know it was a bad fold.

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if hero has reads from previous tourneys (strong reads), then I don't think this is a flat out bad fold. questionable, yes, but not "bad". Reads exist for a reason.

To the OP: if you thought he had AA based on the action that happened during the hand, and not based on previous tourney's reads, IMO it was a bad fold.


>>>ZIPPPY

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Fair enough. I didn't have a super great read on the guy, but I did remember his as being fairly tight early and had a note saying so as well. The PF action confirmed bullets in my mind. I knew he wasn't a donk and I didn't think he would put in the 4th bet with AK.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Laid Down KK Pre-Flop, SUCCESSFULLY!

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I don't like your pf smooth call.

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I guess I just like to let the action come to me PF with KK and QQ

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stop doing that and you will win far more money than this one time you managed to find a possibly barely right, possibly wrong fold

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Are you saying to stop folding KK PF or stop cold-calling? This is the one and only time I've laid down KK PF so I doubt this will happen again anytime soon. As for cold-calling, I will normally do it vs. a EP raise like this b/c I will have position on the raiser and I can put in a raise on the flop if I like what I see. I also play a far different game once the blinds reach 25/50 and higher and rarely, if ever, coldcall at those levels.
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