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#13
08-31-2005, 07:28 AM
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Re: Here\'s one for yah to chew on. Preflop fold.
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"are you folding jj here as well?" JJ is closer than you might think and TT is a fold. [/ QUOTE ] JJ is a clear fold. QQ is closer than you might think. 
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#14
08-31-2005, 07:52 AM
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Re: Here\'s one for yah to chew on. Preflop fold.
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I think AK can still be played profitably here, but you won't go broke folding either. [/ QUOTE ]it really surprises me to hear you say this, as i understand youve played B&M pro for years? i thought only internet players continued with AKo here? i fold in this spot wiothout a thought.
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#15
08-31-2005, 08:39 AM
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Re: Here\'s one for yah to chew on. Preflop fold.
I think folding is fine, but I'd cap here occasionally. I don't think you're necessarily that far behind. I'd think UTG with 10% could be on TT-AQ and the player behind could 3 bet with a pair of 8's through jacks.
I'm somewhat surprised most of you wouldn't see this flop, relative to other preflop decisions posted.
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#16
08-31-2005, 10:23 AM
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Re: Here\'s one for yah to chew on. Preflop fold.
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Party 15-30 good but not great game. TAG (18/10/1.8) raises UTG, Tight (17/6/1.3) player three bets UTG+1, folded to me in MP and I have AKo. I fold. Comments? Yeah, the skirt is a little short. [/ QUOTE ] 3 words. in sta muck [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Barron
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#17
08-31-2005, 10:59 AM
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Re: Here\'s one for yah to chew on. Preflop fold.
Well to be honest, online has caused me to change my tune a bit on folding hands like AK and JJ for 3 bets. In a BM against players who I perceived to be very tight, they were sure easy folds for me at 3 cold.
Now, I'm not sure if I've learned something useful or developed a leak, but I have a harder time folding these hands for 3 bets. For one thing, I don't trust the numbers. I trust them to a point, but I've also seen a 6%pfr turn over something like 99 after 3-betting. Also, this forum has gotten to me in general regarding the value of AK and JJ for 3 bets pf. Yeah, you could easily be in trouble, but when you're good (or suckout), you win a very big pot. Like I said, I don't know if this change has improved or worsened my game, but I do know that being willing to play AK and JJ for 3 bets (at least online) hasn't hurt me and probably improved my online results.
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#19
08-31-2005, 11:30 PM
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Re: Here\'s one for yah to chew on. Preflop fold. RESULTS
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UT had TT, UTG+1 had AA. Glad to see I am not crazy or skirt wearing. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, its the guy with 6% pfr that makes this one easy. If the players we reversed perhaps you could think about getting in. But that second guy has AA there 50% of the time.
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