As8s mid pos

[PRM]

The MP raiser has loose raising standards plus I was the fourth person in.

[Bubmack]

Still, not a good preflop call.

The raise diminishes your implied odds, which was part of the justification of calling when four players have already called. You also have another player that has called his raise cold. How much worse than A,8 could his hand be? Not much if any. In fact it is very possible that you are dominated by the cold caller..

A,8 is just not strong enough to stand this kind of action...it helps that it is suited , but you are not in the clear, IMO. Now if the game was shorthanded - then you might be able to make a case - but not when you are squarely in the middle, having seen someone call the raiser cold and have others left to act.

Let it go.

Bubs

[pianist]

The 3 on the turn obviously helped UTG, and that can only be the case if he has 33, A3, J3s, or 83s. The problem with bad players like this is there's just no way to tell which of these hands he misplayed. However, there are more A3/J3s/83s hands he could have than there are combinations that make 33. So technically speaking, even if you have no clue at all what he has, three-betting the turn is a value bet. Then when he doesn't four-bet, you can be even more sure he's on two pair and can also bet or raise for value on the river.