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Old 11-03-2005, 11:27 AM
aslowjoe aslowjoe is offline
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Default AQ VS a Maniac

MP was A TAG
Bttn was a maniac 45/35/2.5


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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, Button calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:30 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: AQ VS a Maniac

I always leave off the last river action. Cutting the hand off after you bet on the river just seems right to me. You are donking the river to control the number of bets that go into the pot?

I would consider 3-betting that turn. Your hand is sooo strong against a maniac. Given that you called I like the river donk.

Krishan
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: AQ VS a Maniac

i don't play 5/10 but i'm sure i can apply to 3/6:

could someone explain the flop c/r? we're paying the max against a maniac. seems like an iso to fold MP but why? do we care to fold his TT or JJ? the only hand i can see us needing to fold would be AK?
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:05 PM
jba jba is offline
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Default Re: AQ VS a Maniac

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i don't play 5/10 but i'm sure i can apply to 3/6:

could someone explain the flop c/r? we're paying the max against a maniac. seems like an iso to fold MP but why? do we care to fold his TT or JJ? the only hand i can see us needing to fold would be AK?

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don't we sort of want undercards to our AQ fold too? I mean that is six more outs for our A-high to be good, right?

MP is in a steal position, he could have more pocket pairs than just TT/JJ
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:07 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: AQ VS a Maniac

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don't we sort of want undercards to our AQ fold too? I mean that is six more outs for our A-high to be good, right?

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Perfect.

Krishan
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: AQ VS a Maniac

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i don't play 5/10 but i'm sure i can apply to 3/6:

could someone explain the flop c/r? we're paying the max against a maniac. seems like an iso to fold MP but why? do we care to fold his TT or JJ? the only hand i can see us needing to fold would be AK?

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don't we sort of want undercards to our AQ fold too? I mean that is six more outs for our A-high to be good, right?

MP is in a steal position, he could have more pocket pairs than just TT/JJ

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i guess i wasn't think our Ace high is goot. yeah, i guess we could push lower pockets out with this c/r. thanks- i often get tunnel vision figuring he isn't Limp/raising and then betting a flop with a hands worse than ours.
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:17 PM
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yea, i'd 3 bet. he's a maniac, isn't he. maximize your wins with this strong hand.
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