Another interesting one from today's session

jrobb83 · #1 07-06-2005, 10:17 PM

Sb was loose and passive and played very poorly, calling down way to much and not getting value on his good hands.

UTG was a strange beast. I had been playing with him for a while, and he was very loose (55 or so vpip), didn't raise enough preflop, and would do strange things like limp-reraise his good hands from pretty much any position and play bizarely postflop. But not manaical by any means.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets.

The rest of the turn action and river action will be forthcoming.

jrobb83 · #2 07-07-2005, 02:04 AM

Ok, nobody read it and those that did didn't find it interesting. Here is the rest of the turn and river action.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (14 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 14 BB

clownshoes · #3 07-07-2005, 02:06 AM

why 3bet if youre not going to bet this river?

Buck_65 · #4 07-07-2005, 02:15 AM

Seriously, bet the river. You'll be called by a 9 (8 likely calls as well) or a pocket pair lower than yours more often than you'll actually be beaten here IMO. You have no reason to believe you're behind.

baronzeus · #5 07-07-2005, 02:45 AM

Bet the river, even if he had 2 pair, it just got counterfeited.

bet the river.

Buck_65 · #6 07-07-2005, 02:58 AM

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even if he had 2 pair, it just got counterfeited.

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Huh?

jrobb83 · #7 07-07-2005, 04:31 AM

On the turn my 3-bet was meant as a combo protect my hand / free showdown play. On the turn I decided I had too much of a hand to fold, but that 3-betting was far better than calling since it made sb pay 2 bets cold and UTG was not likely to cap or bet the river with anything I could beat. At that point I was not confident enough that I was ahead of UTG to plan on betting the river.

When the river came I really wanted to bet, but decided instead to follow through with my turn plan and check. The J is also a fairly dangerous card, since it pairs up the straight draw. Looking back I like betting the river a bit more, but I still think it is very close.

ggbman · #8 07-07-2005, 04:35 AM

Definitly bet this river.

college_boy · #9 07-07-2005, 05:07 AM

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On the turn my 3-bet was meant as a combo protect my hand / free showdown play. On the turn I decided I had too much of a hand to fold, but that 3-betting was far better than calling since it made sb pay 2 bets cold and UTG was not likely to cap or bet the river with anything I could beat. At that point I was not confident enough that I was ahead of UTG to plan on betting the river.

When the river came I really wanted to bet, but decided instead to follow through with my turn plan and check. The J is also a fairly dangerous card, since it pairs up the straight draw. Looking back I like betting the river a bit more, but I still think it is very close.

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I don't mind the free showdown play against an average player, but against this guy this is a value bet. He could be making his play with a pair and the Ah or Kh.

Willluck · #10 07-07-2005, 05:21 AM

Why the hell aren't you on AIM right now!!!???