3 hands, AKs rr preflop, Trips minraised on river, massive turn draw

wdeadwyler · #1 12-08-2005, 03:08 AM

I didnt feel good about this one from the start

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Button ($100)
SB ($42.10)
BB ($12.60)
Hero ($175.25)
MP ($70.15)
CO ($12.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2.5, MP raises to $4.5, 4 folds, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($17.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($27.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks.

Final Pot: $27.75

and then

Anyone fold the river?
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Button ($15.05)
Hero ($69.20)
BB ($70.20)
UTG ($78.75)
MP ($134.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero (poster) completes, BB raises to $0.5, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls $4, MP folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($12) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, BB calls $7.

River: ($26) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BB raises to $16, Hero calls $8.

Final Pot: $58

and then

BB is 78/63/4 after 26 hands
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SB ($76.08)
BB ($54.27)
UTG ($28.50)
MP ($34.30)
Hero ($102.12)
Button ($52.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB raises to $0.5, UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($5) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $5, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $5, SB raises to $15, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB is all in for 38.27, Hero calls $38.27, SB folds.

Final Pot: $88.27

Hand 1: Get more aggro anywhere
Hand 2: Call river
Hand 3: Standard?

DJ Sensei · #2 12-08-2005, 03:51 AM

1: Villain slows down a lot on the turn (yes, he still bet it, but its not much bigger than the flop bet, and compared to the pot size $5 is essentially nothing.) To me, it looks like either he doesn't like his hand that much anymore (AQ, JJ) or he boated up (KK,QQ), and wants a flush draw to stick around (and hopefully hit). Check, call a small to moderate bet, fold to a big one. He likely won't call a value bet here if he has a worse hand than yours (but could still fire one more barrel), but he won't bet too strongly if he has a better hand than yours (as you've shown little strength throughout the hand).

2: bet more on turn, pot odds are too good not to call river as it played out.

3: good.

#3 12-08-2005, 06:58 AM

hand 1 warrants a bigger fop bet, twice as big.
Hand 2 flop bet is decent, might want to think about going a little bigger, especially at this level, if he calls a bigger bet on the flop you push on the turn all in.

Cambraceres

GrunchCan · #4 12-08-2005, 08:58 AM

1. I like a river block of about 20

2. Turn is so-so, but I bet closer to pot. River is fairly bad becasue such a small bet invites a wide range of bluffs. I bet much more, like 20-25. Only KQ or a flush will be able to raise. As played I don't see how you can't call since AQ could have made that raise.

3. I fold that flop.

#5 12-08-2005, 08:59 AM

Hand #1 he check called didnt bet.

#6 12-08-2005, 09:03 AM

I like the first one but it's a tough spot for sure. Party $25 is a contradiction... it's about going to the felt with overpairs and laying them down... it's about pushing with AQ and mucking AK. There's such a vast difference in the playing styles of the different players that you always have to have your eyes open.

On the third one you have 15 chances to win (I will ignore your A and 8 outs). The pot is $88 and it's $38 to call, giving you 2.3:1 odds (I think). You have a 33% chance of winning, I think this call is almost exactly break even, note if he has a set then it's probably - EV, if your ace outs are good it's probably + EV. If he has 89 you are screwd :P I would probably fold.

wdeadwyler · #7 12-08-2005, 01:10 PM

[ QUOTE ]
hand 1 warrants a bigger fop bet, twice as big.
Hand 2 flop bet is decent, might want to think about going a little bigger, especially at this level, if he calls a bigger bet on the flop you push on the turn all in.

Cambraceres

[/ QUOTE ]

Hand 1: I didnt bet the flop, I c/c
Hand 2: I bet the pot. Even if I bet 7 dollars, I would still have way too much to move in on turn.

Someone said I should fold the turn in hand 2...
I am getting roughly 2.3-1 on my money with a 2-1 shot, unless villain has 89. If SB calls the bet (or moves in) I will be getting even better odds, I dont see how I can laydown the turn in hand 3. It sucks putting your stack in on a draw with no FE, but +EV is +EV, No?

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