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Old 12-21-2005, 04:06 AM
peritonlogon peritonlogon is offline
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It's amazing that, despite the fact that Unions are all but gone in this country, people can still find time to hate them.

Anyway...This quote clearly shows that, considered just from a practical standpoint, it is the city leadership that doing harm to the city, not the Union.

"Indeed, not just Mr. Toussaint but some other New Yorkers are questioning whether it was worthwhile for the authority to go to war over the issue when the authority's pension demands would apparently save less over the next three years than what the New York City Police Department will spend on extra overtime during the first two days of the strike."STEVEN GREENHOUSE NewYorkTimes.

And That's not even including the big loss... which is to the city economy and the loss of the citizen mobility.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:32 PM
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:03 AM
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This is my response from the other thread:

It is funny how liberal media usually fails to fully report all the details in union strikes. It is not enough to say a corporation or the MTA made this much of a profit last year, but also to show what average wages at different levels are for union members including all their benefits. Only then is there enough informtion to make judgements on wage fairness. But of course the reason such things generally aren't reported is that all the other blue collar workers who make far less would have little sympathy for the union's position.

The key element in this matter though is that public employees are rightly held to a different standard regarding strikes which can imperil people's lives and cause severe economic hardship for all other workers. The union is breaking the law pure and simple and deserves to be harshly treated for that alone.

But they are also forcing workers to walk in freezing tempartures or not get to work and lose pay during the holiday season. Shame on them and their selfishness.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:04 AM
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:27 AM
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They should treat these strikers the way Reagan handled the Air Traffic Controllers.

We should end the Tammany-like corruption and over spending in transit system.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:53 AM
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The *real* blame, of course, lies with government. Government decided to put all the eggs in one basket and have a monopoly transit system. By eliminating any alternatives, the city put itself into a position to be blackmailed by the transit workers

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And who would operate all the unprofitable routes? at the unprofitable times?
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:33 AM
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And who would operate all the unprofitable routes? at the unprofitable times?

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Nobody, presumably. Is that a problem? Do unprofitable riders have a right to make others subsidize their travel?
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:58 AM
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Yeah and stop delivering the mail to remote areas of the US too. Then Ray Zee would just be SOL. Government exists to promote the common good, though it should do it as cheaply as possible.
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:04 AM
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Yeah and stop delivering the mail to remote areas of the US too. Then Ray Zee would just be SOL. Government exists to promote the common good, though it should do it as cheaply as possible.

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FedEx seems to be able to profitably deliver packages to "remote areas". I don't really see a problem here. Is package delievery to the yukon some sort of basic human right that I'm supposed to pay for?
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Old 12-21-2005, 11:10 AM
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FedEx seems to be able to profitably deliver packages to "remote areas".

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I think you'll find that even FedEx has 'loss leaders'
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