Overpair to paired board

lostinthought · #1 01-13-2005, 01:26 PM

wondering if this is a leak in my game.. thoughts?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Joshua · #2 01-13-2005, 01:31 PM

I would raise the turn. There is no evidence yet that he has a better hand. If I get reraised on the turn I would slow down. A lower (pocket-)pair will call you down most of the time and if your opponent is being tricky with overcards you destroy his pot-odds by raising.

rmarotti · #3 01-13-2005, 01:33 PM

Ditto. Alot of SS players wait and c/raise the turn w/ flopped trips. I put villain on A6 s00ted.

evain · #4 01-13-2005, 01:35 PM

Hey I know where you are coming from here. Jacks are my worry too. I know I should raise the turn here to see if I am reraised - but I too often call down like you. And when I am reraised I feel I should fold - especially to a basic player. Against a tricky player I will call down.

evain

chief444 · #5 01-13-2005, 01:42 PM

I think if you're routinely calling down with these types of hands after being 3-bet on the flop and turn you would be better off in the long run just calling the turn and river.

Joshua · #6 01-13-2005, 02:00 PM

I didn't say I would automaticly call down but that's probably what I would do [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]. You're right that hero is most likely behind if reraised on both flop and turn. The problem is that the flop has gotten really big, it's heads-up and if you get known to make these folds your opponents may throw in a reraise in these types of situations just to test you (they're getting pretty juicy pot-odds). But against clueless players or A-B-C-players it is possible to make alot of folds that I would perceive as dangerous.