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Old 08-16-2005, 10:59 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Worst TV plays ever

Which absolutely atrocious moves stand out in your mind as some of the lousiest plays someone could make?

Of course, there have been many.

But some recent ones are:
1) Tommy Reed infamously check-folds a set on the turn.
2) Ted Forrest doesn't bet AA on the river against DN's AQ on a 66xA6 board.
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:44 AM
RiverTheNuts RiverTheNuts is offline
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Murphy pushing into Arieh's rivered K high flush

Tuan Le... everything he does

Hoyt Corkins' hand against Cassidy in the USPC with the A and trip jacks
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Old 08-16-2005, 11:59 AM
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Murphy pushing into Arieh's rivered K high flush


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Are you kidding? That wasn't a bad play at all. It's ridiculous of you to even say that.

By the way, from the way you are naming these plays "Murphy pushing into Arieh's flush" you make it sound as if Murphy knew what Arieh had. It's pretty stupid of you to evaluate plays based on the results, or based on the actual holding of the opponent. And it makes it pretty obvious that you have a deep lack of understanding of poker.
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:04 PM
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Murphy pushing into Arieh's rivered K high flush


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Are you kidding? That wasn't a bad play at all. It's ridiculous of you to even say that.

By the way, from the way you are naming these plays "Murphy pushing into Arieh's flush" you make it sound as if Murphy knew what Arieh had. It's pretty stupid of you to evaluate plays based on the results, or based on the actual holding of the opponent. And it makes it pretty obvious that you have a deep lack of understanding of poker.

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All I know is that his boat will never get paid off past the first day of the WSOP by anyone but a moron
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:19 PM
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All I know is that his boat will never get paid off past the first day of the WSOP by anyone but a moron

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Oh yeah, I forgot that all the players that make it deep into the WSOP are very weak-tight and predictable.

And of course you were there so you know Murphy's table image, and you know Arieh's table image, and you know whether Murphy had been making overbets, and you know whether Arieh had been playing sheriff, and you know exactly what pot odds Murphy is laying, and you know how the table was playing and whether the increased stack size would have allowed Arieh to greatly bully the table. Since you know all these things already, it would be kind of silly for me to point out that they are factors.

My bad.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:51 PM
J Palo J Palo is offline
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einbert, you are so WRONG here. This is without a doubt one of the worst tv plays ever. Arieh was calling the bets Murphy made before the river which is the first tell to a draw. Also, it was clear that Arieh was one of the most, if not the most, aggressive player left in the tournament. Why bet into him if it is possible with the river heart he made a flush, especially holding the nuts. The only POSSIBLE way Murphy gets no money out of Arieh is to go "all in." So why do it? Despite what tv implies their is a thing called "VALUE BETTING." Your theory on this hand is so stupid that you practically prove my point. "Oh yeah, I forgot that all the players that make it deep into the WSOP are very weak-tight and predictable," exactly why he should have checked to Arieh, so he would bet.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:46 PM
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I was actually thinking Hoyt's earlier hand with D'Agastino. 97s i think, and he pushes all in PF to steal the blinds. Of course, it paid off...
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:21 PM
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Murphy pushing into Arieh's rivered K high flush

Tuan Le... everything he does

Hoyt Corkins' hand against Cassidy in the USPC with the A and trip jacks

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Really agree with the Murphy play. He was in such a good position until he just got lazy. It really seemed that he was satisfied to win the 200K (not that I wouldn't be) and took a very unnecessary risk. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:59 PM
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Reed's play is #1 in non-celeb poker

Celeb Poker Showdown had 3 plays that make Reed look like a genius.

(Thanks to P Gordon and Bluff)

Hand #1 (Not aired yet)

Board is 3d,4d,7h,Qs

Player A: with 5d 6d (nut straight with S flush draw) checks
Player B:Bets pot
Player A:FOLDS!

Hand 2

J Gordon (t44,400) raises to 5000 (1k-2k blinds)
A Dickinson goes all-in for 5600
J Gordon FOLDS 600 to go for a 10K pot!

Hand 3

C Manheim has the nut flush, no s flush or f house poss, and check-folds.( Forgot she hand the Kd)
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: Worst TV plays ever

I know the celeb poker shows shouldn't count here, since there's just too many bad plays to count, but I saw one on that god-awful Poker Royale comedians vs pros the other day that takes the cake:

Don't remember the exact board, but Robert Williamson has K3s and goes all in on the flop with a flush draw. Comedienne I don't recognize, who is the short but not insignificant stack, calls off the rest of her chips with an UNIMPROVED 32o and no draw. Of course the flush doesn't come in, she hits a 2 on the river, and goes on to win. Good god.
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