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Old 11-29-2005, 06:25 AM
Rocco Rocco is offline
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Default Final table - A9s from UTG+1

$5 R+A on Party. 1180 entrants and we're down to 8. I have the 4th biggest stack with approx T415000.

- Average stack is about T450000
- Blinds are 15000/30000

I'm UTG+1 and look down on A9s. Main goal is, of course, the 1st place that pays $4750. A mix of big and small stacks to act behind me. Smallest stack has 4xBB. My M is 9.2 and the question is whether you push, raise (how much?) or fold and wait for a better hand?
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:43 AM
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Personally, I think 7 people to act is too many against A9s. With your M being 9, I think you've got a little breathing room left to get a better hand, or better position at least. If you were in MP I'd consider the push....
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Final table - A9s from UTG+1

I'm folding. Too many people yet to act and you are not getting desperate to play a hand this weak from out of position. I would hate to enter the pot and being raised by someone behind me. I'm not prepared to go all the way with this hand at the moment, and neither do I want to get my stack crippled. Wait for a better opportunity, you have at least a round or two before your M is getting dangerously low.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Final table - A9s from UTG+1

I lay it down. Too many people acting behind you that can cripple you or knock you out. If you raise here and get reraised by a medium or big stack behind you you stand a good chance of being dominated but may have to call anyway if you are committed.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Final table - A9s from UTG+1

You don't have the odds to raise or push. Limping is possible, but folding is probably better.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Final table - A9s from UTG+1

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Personally, I think 7 people to act is too many against A9s. With your M being 9, I think you've got a little breathing room left to get a better hand, or better position at least. If you were in MP I'd consider the push....
Just my 2 cents

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there aren't 7 left to act, there are 6. this is like MP1 at a 10-handed table.

pushing would be very bad. i'd raise if the BB was tight to 38k, but my default is to fold.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Final table - A9s from UTG+1

How do you calculate his odds for raising?

I fold this almost always. If I'm given an awfull lot of respect or the table is übertight I might raise, but in a situation like that the hand doesn't matter that much.

I don't look down on A9s and feel I have to play it from UTG+1.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Final table - A9s from UTG+1

Thanks for all answers... I raised 3xBB and got re-raised. Just wanted to check it's not considered too tight folding even though were down to 8 players.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:37 PM
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How do you calculate his odds for raising?


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If you don't have odds to push, you generally don't have odds to raise. It is not as easily calculated as for pushing. If you get reraised, you have to fold a big part of your stack or it's the same as pushing.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:41 PM
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If you don't have odds to push, you generally don't have odds to raise. It is not as easily calculated as for pushing.

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to anyone who doesn't understand this, don't worry. it is gibberish.
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