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Old 11-06-2005, 07:09 PM
maddog2030 maddog2030 is offline
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Default Re: $109s - A3 Bluff

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You obviously are wishing that he a naked ace of hearts and want to have him throw in an extra t300 in an effort to take down a bigger pot on the river.

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I don't think he'd want to give him pot odds if this was his intention.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: $109s - A3 Bluff

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I want a call on the turn. Is that mental?

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I wouldn't say it's mental. I'd say its more like FPS. You obviously are wishing that he a naked ace of hearts and want to have him throw in an extra t300 in an effort
to take down a bigger pot on the river.

How'd I do?

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Close. I just want a crying call from an ace hoping for a cheap showdown, a wish I will deny him on the river. If he has a big heart that's fine. I don't *think* I'm going to push a heart river if he checks, but I'm definitely pushing a non-heart river. Thing with this bluff was, if I bet big on the turn, he'll sense something fishy. If I bet medium and he calls, I have nothing to fire another barrel with. Given players are less likely to call bets on the river than the turn (especially if he's drawing to a heart flush) I took the cheese bet, big bet on river line. I also prefer it because that's how most would play the turned flush.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:11 PM
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If he calls, the river's a blank, and he checks, do you check behind or bet?

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i'm pretty sure he's betting. why else would he want a turn call with only a pair of 3's? his plan is to move him off on the river.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:31 PM
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wow, fold preflop. no need to get involved here
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:34 PM
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wow, fold preflop. no need to get involved here

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bad advice. he's getting 3-1 to see the flop.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:36 PM
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i don't care about the odds. there's no need to get involved, you have a nice stack. manage your stack relative to the others. save fe for the bubble. hero was lucky here.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:37 PM
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folding to a minraise here with A3s is absurdly weak tight.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:40 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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sorry we disagree. i would rather raise with any 2 than call with air. what are you ahead of here? easy fold, and it's not even close.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:45 PM
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If you fold here with A3s at a 55 let alone a 109, the SB will see you are weak and be able to walk over your blinds all the time. It's a must call. A fold is fine against the donks of the 11-33's, but not here.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:46 PM
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not even close? okay buddy. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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