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DeeJ · #1 10-01-2005, 07:16 AM

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I have Aces, Fool

(someone on Paradise had that handle.)

Villain is a super-loose 63/5/1.3, although his river aggression is 3 (only over 37 hands). Note the open-folder on the river [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (13.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 folds, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB raises, MP2 folds ...

The Truth · #2 10-01-2005, 07:36 AM

? I dont think this is remotely interesting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

DeeJ · #3 10-01-2005, 07:58 AM

Sorry. I thought arguments could be made for all three. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

The Truth · #4 10-01-2005, 08:49 AM

I can see an argument for reraising, but sample size on villain is so small it is really a forced call.

-blake

#5 10-01-2005, 10:08 AM

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Sorry. I thought arguments could be made for all three. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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I dont think this hand is uninteresting but I am easily amused. I'll argue all 3 options for you. 1) FOLDING: Youre getting good pot odds to call this vs a player you dont know much about, also if this player had a Ten would he bet the flop like this, if this player has a Ten he certaintly played it illogically. This is enough reason to call here. Folding would be horrible. 2) RAISING: Raising would also be horrible. At this point in the hand all you really have is a bluff catcher with your Aces, I see no value in raising against an unknown in this situation. 3) CALLING: This is clearly the best option in my opinion.

Chris Daddy Cool · #6 10-01-2005, 10:28 AM

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Sorry. I thought arguments could be made for all three. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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sorry but i think reraising would be terrible.

DeeJ · #7 10-01-2005, 10:41 AM

I didn't say they were all good arguments [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Reraising says I can beat trip tens. A weak player can save his bet on the end as he's clearly beat. This would work often enough to make it profitable.
Calling because you don't really know where you are, I have Aces, Fool, and can still beat a whole load of hands.
Folding because how many weak players raise on the end when the board pairs unless they've made trips?

[dons flameproof jacket]

Chris Daddy Cool · #8 10-01-2005, 10:44 AM

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Reraising says I can beat trip tens. A weak player can save his bet on the end as he's clearly beat. This would work often enough to make it profitable.

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huh? you have AA, if he's folding a hand its because he has a worse one then yours. so this is not a valid argument at all.

DeeJ · #9 10-01-2005, 10:47 AM

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this is not a valid argument at all.

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I didn't say they were all good arguments

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The Truth · #10 10-01-2005, 11:18 AM

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Sorry. I thought arguments could be made for all three. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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sorry but i think reraising would be terrible.

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reraising would be for value against this opponent, not as a bluff.

-blake

View Poll Results: Two loose/passive players limp in front of you. You have A8s in MP. There are 2 or 3 loose players
Raise	17	17.35%
Call	76	77.55%
Fold	5	5.10%
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