5-5 NL at Foxwoods - very deepstacks

LuvDemNutz · #1 08-01-2005, 12:49 PM

I was up at Foxwoods for the weekend and decided to try out the 5-5NL game there.
I bought in for the minimun ($500) and ran it up to $1K when this hand came up. With $1K I was still the shortstack at the table. Stack sizes ranged from $1K to $12K.

No real read on Villian in this hand as he just sat down. I did see him show down T7o in a recent hand. So basically he could be playing any 2. But with stacks this deep, that is to be expected anyway I guess.

I pick up TdTc in MP and limp. 3 other limpers.

Flop ($30) - Th 7d 5c

Checked to me, I bet $30, Villain on my immediately left calls, everyone folds.

Turn 4d - I bet $70, Villain raises to $900.

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JihadOnTheRiver · #2 08-01-2005, 12:55 PM

This is not even questionable. You are short stcacked and they're probably very aware of that, and they probably took your min buyin as fear, so they're gonna be trying to push you around. You have to call. If he has a straight, so be it.

thabadguy · #3 08-01-2005, 12:57 PM

Raise Preflop(TT is def a raising hand in that game).
Insta call.
If he shows u the straight,laugh and say nh.
Is this a serious post? or am i being taken?

XXXNoahXXX · #4 08-01-2005, 01:10 PM

Even questioning a call here means that you're probably playing too high above your limit/bankroll. When you get in for the minimum, people are going to assume that you are wary of losing it and will try to bully. If he turns over the straight, at least you got the river to try and fill up.

flawless_victory · #5 08-01-2005, 01:16 PM

these stacks are not that deep...
raise PF.
call turn.
you make sound so brutal when you say he raised to 900... why dont you just he raised allin?
raise PF.

slickpoppa · #6 08-01-2005, 01:40 PM

You gotta call. At this point, if he does have the 68, there is still no reason for him to think that you have a hand that is worth calling 900 with. And if he does have a straight, you have 10 outs.

sully4321 · #7 08-01-2005, 01:43 PM

i'm assuming you folded and he mucked it...

LuvDemNutz · #8 08-01-2005, 01:45 PM

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these stacks are not that deep...

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If 200BB - 2400BB stacks are not deep stacks than what are?

slickpoppa · #9 08-01-2005, 01:49 PM

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these stacks are not that deep...

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If 200BB - 2400BB stacks are not deep stacks than what are?

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Since your stack is only 200bb, for the discussion of this hand it does not matter whether the other guy has 201bb or 2400bb. Deep stacks only matter if your stack is deep as well.

neon · #10 08-01-2005, 01:49 PM

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I was up at Foxwoods for the weekend and decided to try out the 5-5NL game there.
I bought in for the minimun ($500) and ran it up to $1K when this hand came up. With $1K I was still the shortstack at the table. Stack sizes ranged from $1K to $12K.

No real read on Villian in this hand as he just sat down. I did see him show down T7o in a recent hand. So basically he could be playing any 2. But with stacks this deep, that is to be expected anyway I guess.

I pick up TdTc in MP and limp. 3 other limpers.

Flop ($30) - Th 7d 5c

Checked to me, I bet $30, Villain on my immediately left calls, everyone folds.

Turn 4d - I bet $70, Villain raises to $900.

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If you're gonna buy in for the minimum in that game and sit there as the short stack at the table, you'd better be prepared to put your stack in the middle with a whole lot less than top set. The big stacks in that game prey on the smaller stacks that aren't willing to get it all in w/ less than the nuts.

If this was the time he has the straight, it sucks, but oh well; you're still drawing live. And definitely raise 1010 preflop--you may be the short stack, but you still have 200 big blinds in front of you . . .