A hand for discussion

[irishpint]

is it possible you're in your poker hell because you play hands this way?!

[tijean]

The only way I can see to justify this play is against someone who never folds - he plays 100% of his hands, and sees a showdown every hand - and only because MP3 didn't tag along.

[detruncate]

I could see playing this way against a full-on maniac with a hand you want to show down but don't think is strong enough to justify putting in 3 bets on any street. Perhaps also against someone who will fold anything you beat but 3-bet things that beat you -- you can't fold the turn with your gutshot + ace getting 9:1 or so after he 3-bets you.

[MrWookie47]

You are approximately a 3:2 dog on every street against a truly random hand. If this guy is a pure maniac, 100%/100%/infinity, your play is fine. Anything less than that, though, and the chances you're way behind go up significantly.

In general, fold the flop. Barring that, fold the turn. If you still haven't folded, fold the river.

[LazyRobot]

Jaran:

Curious to your motives now. I would not make this play on the flop personally especially with MP3s presence alone however you say you have a good reason. Anyway what were your thoughts here?

[Kevin K.]

It's just too fancy and not profitable. I'm guessing your read is that he plays any 2. You're roughly 3-2 against random hands preflop. Then you don't hit on any street. You fall further and further behind each street.

Good read, but it's -EV.

[DA MICRO MASTAH]

Jaran,
I'm going to assume you called the flop because of your backdoor draws, the turn because of your gutshot, and the river probably because "I was curious as to what cards my opponent held." Well I just want to make it known that I don't like it, no not one bit. Perhaps you have watched a few too many World Poker Tour final tables, but ace high doesn't amount to very much here in the micro limits.

It is play like THIS that eventually results in 100BB or larger downswings. Now maybe you are a rich yuppie to whom $100 means little, but at least have some respect for those of us who worked hard at Home Depot to EARN our bankrolls by not posting horribly misplayed hands like this and then playing them off as solid poker!

I guess I'll see you in hell. Poker hell.

[FlopMe]

Great gimmick account. bisonbison? You're hillarious, whoever you are.

[btspider]

i'm assuming a maniac.

i don't think i like it. if he's a maniac, then you should have tightened up PF. I think you need more pairing value.. e.g. A7s or similar to enter this pot. your 2 sidecard, if paired, only allows you to pass better Aces.. which we obvious don't need to fear too much.

now if he'll cap every street when you have a flush.. that's another story.

a maniac gives you odds to call on the turn with your 5.5-6'ish outs, so the only other issue is whether the flop call is an implied odds call or an intent to showdown call.. in which case would a raise be better?

[aron]

Am I the only one who would fold this PF?

-aron