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Old 05-21-2005, 11:29 PM
modaddy modaddy is offline
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Default How should I play this A2?

***** Hand History for Game 2085482379 *****
$0.5/$1 Omaha Hi/Lo - Saturday, May 21, 23:04:53 EDT 2005
Table Table 32691 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: wralph70 ( $7.88 )
Seat 4: LoriKori ( $4 )
Seat 7: timeslayer ( $2.75 )
Seat 8: DLPKA ( $33 )
Seat 9: jerwilson ( $56.13 )
Seat 10: squashtree ( $18.12 )
Seat 6: Elaine17 ( $10.5 )
Seat 2: modaddy3 ( $19.5 )
Seat 3: SnapTurtle46 ( $14.1 )
Seat 5: Hingdiddly ( $31.25 )
squashtree posts small blind [$0.25].
wralph70 posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to modaddy3 [ 6c As 2s 4c ]
modaddy3 calls [$0.5].
>You have options at Corkscrew Table!.
SnapTurtle46 calls [$0.5].
LoriKori folds.
Hingdiddly folds.
Elaine17 calls [$0.5].
timeslayer folds.
DLPKA folds.
jerwilson calls [$0.5].
squashtree calls [$0.25].
wralph70 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8s, Ks ]
squashtree checks.
wralph70 checks.
modaddy3 bets [$0.5].

Should I bet here with out a low draw to go with my flush draw?

SnapTurtle46 calls [$0.5].
Elaine17 calls [$0.5].
jerwilson calls [$0.5].
squashtree folds.
wralph70 folds.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]

modaddy3 checks.

What do you think?

SnapTurtle46 checks.
Elaine17 checks.
jerwilson bets [$1].
modaddy3 folds.

Normal, right?

SnapTurtle46 folds.
Elaine17 calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
Elaine17 checks.
jerwilson checks.
Elaine17 shows [ Jh, Ts, 9c, Js ] two pairs, jacks and eights.
jerwilson doesn't show [ Th, Qs, 2h, Jc ] a pair of eights.
Elaine17 wins $6.5 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and eights.
There was no qualifying low hand.

*vomit*
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Old 05-21-2005, 11:48 PM
Ironman Ironman is offline
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

Modaddy,

I think I play it the same way and then get really annoyed when it would have worked out.

I don't remember who said it but you want to draw to the nuts after the flop.

You are not drawing to the nuts...so you fold.

Don't sweat it.

Dave
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Old 05-22-2005, 12:29 AM
gergery gergery is offline
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

I'd have bet out on the turn. You're representing a made boat, so drawing hands like QJT or 24 should fold. you might get a 23 to fold, and should get hands like AJxx to fold.

If they call, you have flush, A, and 2 outs and might even have the best hand now if for example they had the hands they actually did. Depending on how you count, you probably have ~8-10 scoop outs here against most hands, and will find out on the cheap street if someone has a monster.
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

RAISE PREFLOP.
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Old 05-27-2005, 12:03 AM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

why wait for hands with back-up if you are not going to use them? You still have second nut lose draw and a flush draw, at least call the turn and the river if it is a low card.
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Old 05-27-2005, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

I would not raise as a a default play UTG with a hand thats plays very well multi-way but merely good heads up. If you’re sure you’ll get 3-4 callers then go ahead and raise. If calling will get you 5 opponents while raising will get you 2 then calling is the better play.
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:54 PM
Wintermute Wintermute is offline
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

I'm raising preflop--it's party, you'll get callers. On the flop, you do have a low draw. 2nd nut isn't always a loser. I'm calling that turn, low is still live. And then on the river, get as much money in as possible.
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Old 05-27-2005, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

Raise. Preflop. I would rather have 2 callers who paid 2 bets to get in than 4 callers who paid one bet each to get in. Mainly because not raising this preflop makes me physically sick anyway.
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:15 AM
GooperMC GooperMC is offline
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

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I'm raising preflop--it's party, you'll get callers

[/ QUOTE ]
You are right you will get callers but the question is how many. 3 callers putting in 2 bets is worse then 6 callers putting in 1 bet.
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Old 05-28-2005, 02:19 AM
GooperMC GooperMC is offline
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Default Re: How should I play this A2?

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I would rather have 2 callers who paid 2 bets to get in than 4 callers who paid one bet each to get in. Mainly because not raising this preflop makes me physically sick anyway.

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Can you please explain this further? I would much rather have 4 callers that pay 1 bet then 2 callers that pay 2. I want that for 2 reasons:
1) You are putting 1/2 as much money in
2) You are going to be drawing for the nuts so 4 callers equals more people to pay you off if they hit the 2nd best hand.

Can you please elaborate on why you would rather play A2 short handed?
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