When Ed Miller met Peter_Rus

[bernie]

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Dude, you have six high.

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He wants to get the better kickers out. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

No mucks last night?

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[Fortitude]

Doesn't anyone fold this preflop? An immediate 8:1 (effectively 9:1) is enough to call 62s?

[Shillx]

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Check/call the flop, I think betting out is pretty bad.

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[scrub]

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Doesn't anyone fold this preflop? An immediate 8:1 (effectively 9:1) is enough to call 62s?

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Not really, particularly as the stakes get lower and lower.

Peter Rus, who plays extremely well postflop, thinks he makes a little money calling with suited trash out of the blinds in these spots. The overwhelming majority of posters on this forum will be losers making this call.

scrub

[scrub]

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It sucks getting the field blown away.

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If UTG has AK and blows the field off, you should want to kiss him, especially if someone who gets blown off has something like J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I don't think this is a situation where UTG raises you with an unpaired hand and blows off the field often enough that betting out is better, but there are situations where you would love to blow off the field and get HU with UTG.

scrub

[bernie]

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The overwhelming majority of posters on this forum will be losers making this call.

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Is this hand really that hard to play postflop?

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[bernie]

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especially if someone who gets blown off has something like J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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I don't think him having the [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is why you'd thank him.

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[zephed56]

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With that scary flop there was no way I wanted it to get checked through

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The flop being checked through is far from being disastrous. This statement sounds like you're the one trying to protect something. Like what? What are you afraid of giving a free card to?

b

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I made a post in the general forum recently about this topic, and I got 1 reply.

Flush draw Hypothesis

Question: Is it, or is it not +EV to receive a free turn card with a flush draw?

I know it depends on the number of flop callers when there is a bet, but let's assume on average we will get 2.5 callers if we instead decide to bet.

Note that:
-by betting we gain some fold equity later in the hand.
-Even if we always check we may have the option of pumping our draw if someone bets behind us. We have good position to do this also.
-By betting we may inadvertently knock the whole field out.
-When we checkraise the field we also gain fold equity later in the hand.

[masonx]

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You're betting into a likely raise very close to your left. There's more action to be tried for from your left. I'd have checked the flop, seen how many players are coming along. Let some others in.

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[masonx]

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Is this hand really that hard to play postflop?


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I dont think so. Its generally simple to play postflop.