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Old 07-25-2005, 06:52 PM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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Default More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

$5 Pokeroom Turbo.

Blinds moving every 3 minutes. About 65 Left, top 40 Pay.

Hero is in top 15 with 15,000 Chips.

Current blinds are 400/800.

Hero Gets KK - UTG and checks to check raise or check call, as it's been agressive with the blind stucture.

3 others Limp behind, including 2 other top 15 stacks.

Flop comes AAT - No suits.

BB Checks, what's my play?
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:55 PM
Lloyd Lloyd is offline
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Default Re: More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

Check around and see the action. If it's raised and re-raised it's safe to assume you're behind. If it's folded to the button who raises you've got a difficult decision. If he's aggressive I'd be inclined to smooth call and lead the turn. If he's passive (yet bets) I'd be inclined to fold.

You tried to trap. It didn't work. Don't fall in love with the hand with this many people in the pot.
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:12 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

First, you didn't check, you called.

Second, you now have a middle pair against four opponents with an ace on the board and can probably safely check/fold.

Third, next time, you should really refrain from getting tricky in a turbo and just raise preflop.
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:18 PM
Noel Montgomery Noel Montgomery is offline
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Default Re: More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

In turbos, I just go all in preflop with this hand. I assume there are at least a couple of desperate players at your table.
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:09 PM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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Default Re: More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

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First, you didn't check, you called.

Second, you now have a middle pair against four opponents with an ace on the board and can probably safely check/fold.

Third, next time, you should really refrain from getting tricky in a turbo and just raise preflop.

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Yes I called, not checked pre-flop.

I didn't want to comitt too much here, but I also didn't want to check fold KK. If no one had anything, might have been a first to bet wins.

I bet out 3,000 and folded to a raise by another big stack.

Is that a really bad play?
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

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I didn't want to comitt too much here,

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Why not! You have KK!
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

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I didn't want to comitt too much here,

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Why not! You have KK!

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I mean postflop - cause there are 2 As on the board.
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: More KK Trouble - Bet this Postflop?

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I mean postflop - cause there are 2 As on the board.

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Postflop multiway is a check fold. But I'd rather win the blinds by raising UTG than limp folding a scary board.
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