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Old 12-28-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default $22: UTG confusion

I really have no idea what to do here with the two biggies left to act. I'd put their ranges at 77+, ATo+ with what they'd been calling with.

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2170)
CO (t725)
Button (t2160)
SB (t2475)
BB (t470)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero ?</font>
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:57 AM
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Raise 3X BB, see how it plays out from there.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: $22: UTG confusion

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Raise 3X BB, see how it plays out from there.

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That would seem like one solution, thus, my confusion. If one of the 2000k stacks pushes, do I fold? If I fold I'll have 1570 left, 1370 after posting the BB the next hand. Assuming thats all bad news for me is this a push or fold situation?

Blah.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: $22: UTG confusion

Eh, I'd push here. The big stacks aren't gonna call you with anything but the best hands and the shorties might come along with weaker aces.

That being said, this might only be minorly +EV (I am pretty sure it isn't -EV although I am playing and don't wanna run it thru SNGPT) so I could be wrong.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: $22: UTG confusion

You can't raise... Its a push or fold...and if the two big stacks know how to fold small PP..I'm definitely open-pushing...The BB will likely be all-in and AJ is crushing his range to be all-in.

The CO might be all-in this hand as well....

Side note: In these spots before - I've limped in and then usually gone for the re-push if the biggies limp and shorties push...but then folded if the biggies are tight players and push. Any comments on that play?
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:08 PM
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Hmm, I guess it depends on your read... I think you're fine pushing too, I've definitely done it with worse hands.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:11 PM
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Hmm, I guess it depends on your read... I think you're fine pushing too, I've definitely done it with worse hands.

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Huh? You're second stack here with 2 shorties. What other hands are you pushing OOP in this situation?
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: $22: UTG confusion

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I really have no idea what to do here with the two biggies left to act. I'd put their ranges at 77+, ATo+ with what they'd been calling with.

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2170)
CO (t725)
Button (t2160)
SB (t2475)
BB (t470)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero ?</font>

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I dont think of this as myself being "2nd stack with two shorties", a call and a loss from the big stack spells absolute doom for him. You have just as much leverage as anyone else here. Its close, but I'd probably push this...heck, AQ and maybe AK would fold anyway. Maybe not at a 22 actually.
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: $22: UTG confusion

You seem to have come around full circle on your line. Are you pushing this? BTW, I'm very confident on my range for the BTN, he's had over t2000 since the first orbit. SB may be a little wider, but he's just gotten his stack so its hard to say as he was playing more hands to survive.
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:07 PM
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I decided pushing was a better option considering the blinds coming up soon.
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