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Old 12-15-2005, 07:02 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default AK in a tough spot

Table is middling-loose, pretty passive.

Been at the table with Villans for about 60 hands. UTG is very short-stacked, starting the hand with about 2 1/2BB. MP2 has never raised preflop, and only shown down one hand in that time; his VPIP is just under 20.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ?

I'll give my thoughts after I read some of yours.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: AK in a tough spot

I think with UTG with so little, MP2 might be trying to isolate himself with the UTG raiser with anything that would be good. I say cap it. Then on the flop, re-evaluate your situation.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:09 PM
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Cap. Fold if you don't turn anything good on the flop.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:10 PM
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Hi Bozlax,

it sounds read-dependent--what do you put MP2 on? ie. how tight? JJ and up, and maybe AK, AKs, AQs? Could MP2 just be isolating UTG since UTG is shortstacked?

Since we have a drawing hand, do we call and hope UTG calls, or do we assume if we cap that UTG is coming along too? I guess capping is better than calling since it gives us position on the flop and we can re-evaluate then?

If it were AKs is that a much clearer cap than AKo? This is a situation I don't really "understand" myself so I'm getting rhetorical.

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Old 12-15-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: AK in a tough spot

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Since we have a drawing hand

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Old 12-15-2005, 07:16 PM
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If you think that MP is a thinking player who would raise to isolate the short stack with a wide range of hands, then I see no problem capping pre-flop.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: AK in a tough spot

I'd probably call here; a raise is not going to force anyone out and against two players you will probably be a little less than 50/50 to be ahead after the flop. I'd call here hoping that it will be more clear on the flop where you stand. AKs I would cap...
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: AK in a tough spot

I think this is an easy fold. In 60 hands MP2 has definitely been dealt hands I raise from any position--here he is 3-betting. If he is a super tight PF raiser, what do you think his 3-bet range is? AA-QQ, AKs, AK? I'm tied with a couple of hands and behind the rest--I think this is an easy fold.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:39 PM
Str8Fish Str8Fish is offline
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Default Re: AK in a tough spot

This is not an easy fold. With 60 hands, I figured his raising is probably TT+, AQs+, and AK.

39,319,068 games 47.094 secs 834,906 games/sec

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 57.1377 % 44.83% 12.31% { TT+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 2: 42.8623 % 30.56% 12.31% { AKo }
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: AK in a tough spot

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Since we have a drawing hand

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I'm [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] about almost every reply here!

The guy who said fold...I can't even speak now...

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