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Old 12-30-2005, 02:52 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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All looks pretty standard to me.

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Old 12-30-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: HU hand

Time to respond without looking at the other replies first.


Alright preflop I have no problem with the call. You're getting 3-1, have position for the remainder of the hand, and have a decent hand.

What kind of hands does he raise with preflop do you think? Only an ace? Some opponents will try to steal with a lot of hands if you complete from the button (and rightly so, to everyone reading). If it's only an ace though, you're in trouble. Still, getting 5-1 on the flop is pretty tough to get away from.

When you call the flop, you have to call the turn, since he could be desperation betting his KJo, and you're getting 2.3-1..

This hand is entirely dependant on read. If you think he'll only raise and then CB an ace, you have to dump it on the flop. Realize that when you call on the flop you've decided he probably doesn't have an ace, and thus are going to have to call his stack on the turn. So really, imo you're the only one that can say what the proper line is here...sometimes I fold quickly, sometimes I call quickly...in a vacuum I probably fold.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:16 PM
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Everyone who thinks calling here preflop is even somewhat reasonable is killin me.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:18 PM
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Everyone who thinks calling here preflop is even somewhat reasonable is killin me.

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I think there might be a bigger issue at hand here Curtains.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:19 PM
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Theres no bigger issue, anyone who doesnt move allin here preflop is completely insane. This is not a minor point. Calling preflop from the SB is flat out terrible. The HH looks weird so maybe I got the action wrong, but if thats what happened, the rest of the hand is irrelvant because the preflop play is so bad.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:19 PM
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Theres no bigger issue, anyone who doesnt move allin here preflop is completely insane.

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Well, that may be true, but not my point.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:22 PM
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Theres no bigger issue, anyone who doesnt move allin here preflop is completely insane.

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Well, that may be true, but not my point.

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Well to post a hand asking a question about one thing, when BY FAR the most glaring error of the hand is another thing, you should try to actually focus on the part of the hand that was clearly played badly, instead of worrying about some random postflop crap that shouldnt have happened anyway.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:26 PM
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Everyone who thinks calling here preflop is even somewhat reasonable is killin me.

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fwiw I thought the BB was 150 when I first responded..I read it seriously within 2 minutes of being woken up by a loud knock on my door.

Blind of 300 it's a no-brainer push.

curtains, do you think completing would be horrible if blinds were 75/150?
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:27 PM
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I would lean towards completing preflop if the blinds were 75-150
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:16 PM
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Scuba...he has less than 8 BB. There is just no way you are going to play Q9o profitably enough postflop to make up for the...however many BB you make from pushing this.

I could see it with 76s against some guys. Maybe. Kinda. But not Q9o.
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