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Old 12-05-2005, 03:23 PM
David BB David BB is offline
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Default L1: AK all-in!

Just wondering what you guys think about this one. A few hands into a 33$ SnG at Multipoker (former party skin).


15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) Table Table 11105 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: knodden76 (730)
Seat 2: toddbshaw37 (1290)
Seat 3: rvernon2222 (880)
Seat 4: AFAHMASP (975)
Seat 5: HERO (785)
Seat 6: TBoneSteak (540)
Seat 7: wiz2122 (730)
Seat 8: MuskieDude (570)
Seat 9: oxyjon (775)
Seat 10: radiotto (725)
HERO posts small blind (10)
TBoneSteak posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad, Kc ]
wiz2122 calls (15)
MuskieDude folds.
oxyjon folds.
radiotto raises (45) to 45
knodden76 calls (45)
toddbshaw37 calls (45)
rvernon2222 calls (45)
AFAHMASP folds.
HERO raises (775) to 785
HERO is all-In.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:28 PM
bestcellar bestcellar is offline
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

I don't like it. You want an AJ or an AT coming along with you, and they are going to laydown to an all-in. Conceivably AQ would call, but if I had AQ facing a raise all in I wouldn't call it this early.

Conversely, the only hands that usually would call you are annoying races like 77-QQ. Why risk all your chips on a race at this stage?

I reraise to 250.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

I think it's actually okay..
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:32 PM
gumpzilla gumpzilla is offline
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

Eh, I like pushing if you're going to raise at all. Betting 250 will still scare out lots of hands while leaving you with a heavily inflated pot whenever you whiff.

I would usually just call here and play very straightforwardly, playing hard if I hit and not putting any more money in the pot if I whiffed. I think pushing is fine, too; there's enough dead money in there to not make you too unhappy when you're up against 88 at the end of the day.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

i respect the play too, and chances are you're not getting a caller, but if you do, you're probably racing.

question is, at this stage in the tournament, how many callers ahead are necessary to justify a push with AK?
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

I'd do it.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:59 PM
gisb0rne gisb0rne is offline
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

I went all-in with AKo at lvl 1 yesterday (first in too!) on PStars $27. Got called by AA in the BB and I sucked out. That's the first time I've ever done that and I hope I never do it again.
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

I like it.
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:00 PM
KingDan KingDan is offline
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

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I went all-in with AKo at lvl 1 yesterday (first in too!) on PStars $27. Got called by AA in the BB and I sucked out. That's the first time I've ever done that and I hope I never do it again.

[/ QUOTE ]

If that doesn't determine whether a play is +EV I don't know what will.

OP: I like it.
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Old 12-05-2005, 05:05 PM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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Default Re: L1: AK all-in!

This is a play that I basically never make. I can see the reasoning, especially when there're three straight (!) callers to the 3x MP raise. I think that a lot of people really over use the preflop push allin in these early levels, but I think it's probably right here. My normal play is to just call and see what happens, but on reflection I think that's pretty horrible :]
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