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Old 11-15-2005, 01:49 PM
augie00 augie00 is offline
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Default party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

villian is 14/12 after 482 hands.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero?
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:08 PM
Dariel86 Dariel86 is offline
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Default Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

Folds. The pot is small and you are behind most of the time.
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

Bet the flop. Why the C/R? The pot is small and there are only 4 players. I'm folding this turn. Calling down with 2nd best hands in small pots like this ain't smart.

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Old 11-15-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

Hmm, villain's play doesn't seem consistent with too many hands. Based on his PFR, I think AQ and 99 are unlikely. Based on his VPIP, I think 33 is unlikely. All other 2-pair/set hands are virtually impossible. I suppose he could have some mega-draw (TJs), but again, I think his VPIP is too low. I'd say 99 is most likely, followed by AQ, followed by TJs.

The pot's probably too small to continue when you're likely to be drawing dead.
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

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Hmm, villain's play doesn't seem consistent with too many hands. Based on his PFR, I think AQ and 99 are unlikely. Based on his VPIP, I think 33 is unlikely. All other 2-pair/set hands are virtually impossible. I suppose he could have some mega-draw (TJs), but again, I think his VPIP is too low. I'd say 99 is most likely, followed by AQ, followed by TJs.

The pot's probably too small to continue when you're likely to be drawing dead.

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Ax [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is a possibility if the "x" isnt too small.
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

This is not a tough turn raise. This is an easy turn fold.
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Old 11-15-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

I'd like to talk more about the flop. I see absolutely no reason to checkraise. Just bet out. I think the turn is an easy fold.
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:26 PM
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I'd like to talk more about the flop. I see absolutely no reason to checkraise. Just bet out. I think the turn is an easy fold.

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I guess I checkraised because I always checkraise. I am not sure if there is much of a difference whether or not I checkraise, except it gives me a little more deception.
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:27 PM
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This is not a tough turn raise. This is an easy turn fold.

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Basically.

This hand is easier if you'd just bet the flop too.

I am now a firm believer in the Entity P. Giraffe School of Fastplaying.
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: party 3/6 facing tough turn raise

fold.
pot isnt too big and your probaly behind
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