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Old 11-18-2005, 03:26 AM
TripleH68 TripleH68 is offline
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Default Who plays this one/quick preflop?

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UTG is complete maniac. 74/60/3.3 over 91 hands. I don't come across these very often.
He is making sure there is at least one raise on every street. Fun. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
MP3 is SLA. One of a couple players at the table playing back at the maniac.
Button to act after me is a gambooler. Many hands have been reduced to HU between him and UTG and I think he will not be able to resist playing from the button here with any two decent cards.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="red">UTG raises</font>, <font color="gray">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="gray">1 fold</font>, <font color="red">MP3 3-bets</font>, Hero ???

<font color="blue">I know under normal circumstances I don't want to play 66 for more than 2 bets. Do I have the odds to play here?</font>
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: Who plays this one/quick preflop?

I don't think I call here, unless MP gets completely out of line as well. Even then I'd probably fold.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:08 AM
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Very very easy fold. You don't have odds for hitting a set and you wont know if you have the best hand postflop. Pot is gonna be 3-handed at least with several bets, which isn't a good spot for a low pair.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Who plays this one/quick preflop?

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Very very easy fold. You don't have odds for hitting a set and you wont know if you have the best hand postflop. Pot is gonna be 3-handed at least with several bets, which isn't a good spot for a low pair.

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I am not so sure about this. If the hand is played 4 handed for 3SB each, you need to make at least 22SB to play for set value alone. Given that there will already be 10.5SB put in by your opponents preflop, you only need to make up about 6BB post flop if you hit your set. Given the nature of the game, I can easily see this happening.

Even if, as is quite possible, the betting is capped preflop, I still think you can consider playing if you think it will be 4 handed or better. You would then need to make up about 8BB post flop when you hit. This pot is likely to end up a monster.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:53 AM
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Eh its probably +EV, but its going to be hard to play postflop and its going to shoot up your variance.

Edit: Forget what I said. Just play it no set, no bet.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:51 AM
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No way I'm playing that one.
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:01 AM
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easy fold I think I would need 99 here maybe 88
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Old 11-18-2005, 07:28 AM
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Theres a reasonable chance it'll be 5 ways here. If thats the case then we can play fo set value.
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:04 AM
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If you can get 3 opponents I think its close but still -EV. With 4 I think its +EV.
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:07 AM
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With 4 I think its +EV.

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With Hero's description of villains that's probably true.
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