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12-12-2004, 06:38 AM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
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Say you have 78o in the BB, 15/30. EP raises on Party, and a LP cold caller (unknown). What is your play here? - Tony [/ QUOTE ] Move down to a lower game if I had to think before clicking the fold box. Hell even 87s is a bad call. 
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12-12-2004, 07:24 AM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
in thwangs defense, my biggest leak atm (at least that i can see) is my blind defense. i lose alot more money in the blinds than im supposed to and im trying to work on this. despite this area of my game i need to patch up, i do very well at these limits.
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#4
12-12-2004, 11:08 AM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
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[ QUOTE ] Say you have 78o in the BB, 15/30. EP raises on Party, and a LP cold caller (unknown). What is your play here? - Tony [/ QUOTE ] Hell even 87s is a bad call. [/ QUOTE ] why?
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#5
12-12-2004, 03:11 PM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Say you have 78o in the BB, 15/30. EP raises on Party, and a LP cold caller (unknown). What is your play here? - Tony [/ QUOTE ] Hell even 87s is a bad call. [/ QUOTE ] why? [/ QUOTE ] It's made wore because of the dynamics of the game(overagressive). 87s does not play well 3 way in an overagressive game, especially out of position. The only 'pot odds' you're going to have are from money you put in yourself.
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#6
12-12-2004, 04:02 PM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
easy fold. Against another opponent you could get away with playing 78s.
Given the dynamics of the game, unless you flop a made hand, you will likely be facing at least one maybe 2 bets. All of this for possibly drawing to the idiot end of a straight.
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#7
12-12-2004, 04:17 PM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
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easy fold. Against another opponent you could get away with playing 78s. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, if you are a solid post-flop player it's probably slightly profitable. If you're not, it's still not worth it. Then again I can't imagine too many people thinking 'i'm not solid post-flop player' Almost everyone thinks they are. That's why poker rules. I know I'm not a fantastic post-flop player so I'm not sure I'd play it. Tommy Angelo didn't like it when I called that exact hand after an mp raise and 4 cold calls. He did say this though: call if and only if you feel like gambling. It's not going to make a big difference one way or the other.
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#8
12-13-2004, 05:35 AM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
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Tommy Angelo didn't like it when I called that exact hand after an mp raise and 4 cold calls. He did say this though: call if and only if you feel like gambling. It's not going to make a big difference one way or the other. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't this a very good spot to be in? Getting 11.5 to 1 on a pre flop call, with you closing the action, with a hand that has the potential to make a very big hand. The flop bet is almost certain to come from your immediate left, so you'll have a chance to see what the entire field does before you have to make your decision. I would think that one small bet is a very good investment here.
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#9
12-13-2004, 05:40 AM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
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I would think that one small bet is a very good investment here. [/ QUOTE ] You and me both. Tommy plays a completely different game in a different universe. I'm beginning to understand it more and more, but not playing 87s getting 11.5-1 -EV poker.
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#10
12-13-2004, 05:50 AM
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Re: 78o in BB against EP raiser and LP caller.
My play would be to click fold without even having to think.
Mike Emery
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