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Old 09-21-2005, 06:35 PM
steaknshake925 steaknshake925 is offline
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Default AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

villain is weak and seems to bet the strength of his hand. he'll call decent sized bets with TPshittyK type hands on dry boards, and i dont think he bluffs. basically he's the dumb weak type that instead of checking his weak hands he'll bet like $4 into a $100 pot.

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i have AA on button, villain is EP, stacks 600 each.
villain limps, i make it 22, villain calls.

flop 7d 9h Td
villain bets $15, i raise to $55, he calls.

turn Jh (pot ~160)
villain bets $25, i call.

river 5c (pot 210)
villain bets $25 again, i push

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Old 09-21-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

when this happens to me on those boards I have no idea what to do. thats a pretty dangerous board and i dont think he's going to really play a big pot with a hand you beat. maybe raise to 75 or 100 if you think he's too weak to blow you off your hand, that will probably get a call out of AJ QQ KK but I don't see too much value in a push.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

He may not fold a better hand here and very likely will not call with 1 pair. Is your push to get him to fold 2 pair or is it for him to call with a jack? I'd like this push a lot better with air than with aces.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

You don't think an 8 is possible?
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

ask your self what you fold with that push and what you beat with hands that call the push.

it seems like you fold everything you beat and get called by many combinations of hands on this particular flop that has one pair beat.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

i didnt think he had an 8 becuz he woulda bet more, if not on turn then on river. it really seemed like he had a weak made hand, was afraid of the straight and wanted to get to showdown cheap. i thought there was a good chance he has some kind of weird twopair, and i'd feel really stupid if i called after he showed so much weakness and then lose to 97. so the push was to take him off possible 2pairs.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

If you raise for value, make it 75-100, not much point in bluffing river imo. just call and hope your hand is good.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

uhh, i dont get it, are you bluffing or valuebetting.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: AA against dumb weak guy, maybe non-standard

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uhh, i dont get it, are you bluffing or valuebetting.

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he's bluffing, trying to get 2 pairs and other fairly weak hands that beat him but still look bad on this board to fold. he will get those hands to fold a lot but the risk reward ratio is so bad i wouldnt do it.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:49 PM
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If you raise for value, make it 75-100, not much point in bluffing river imo. just call and hope your hand is good.

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ugh, i really dont like this. if i raise to 100 then only 2pairs will call and he folds hands like KT. there are alot of pf limping 2pairs possible on this board.
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