a hand has got me thinking

[brettbrettr]

so, I played this hand last night against a solid 2p2er. I'm wondering what you guys think about it b/c it seems tricky as hell to me. This isn't the exact hand, but food for thought.

Anyways, hero has A9o in the bb. Live 4/8 game, I think we're 7 handed at this point. Could be 8, could be 6 but I'm pretty sure its at least 7.

Villan (brettbrettr) raises in UTG +1. Brett can be out of line, but seems to be playing solid hands tonight.

SB, a tight/passive type player calls from the SB. He hasn't been playing many hands tonight, stuck, running bad etc. His call is meaningful, brett thinks. Not sure if Hero agrees.

So, BB calls with A9o. (Thoughts?)

Anyways, 3 to the flop for 6 sbs: Ad2s3s

What's hero's flop plan? Bear in mind that Hero knows that villan will bet this flop with very nearly 100% of his holdings when checked to.

[jt1]

hero should have folded pre-flop but if he thinks that his Ace could easily be good, he should play it wa/wb and bet the river.

[einbert]

Hero should check the flop.

Making a plan for the entire hand based only on preflop action and the flop cards is extremely overrated. Use the information available to you at every step.

[toss]

I think BB should just muck Preflop unless he feels that Villain is screwing around. He also has tight SB to worry about.

Postflop my line would be check/call, check/call if possible. I think we're WA/WB against both players.

[McGahee]

Yeah, I think hero is pretty much screwed, so, fold PF.
On the flop, I could see checking to see how SB reacts to your autobet. I could also see betting out since I do not think you would raise this flop without a better hand. Of course you're going to expect villian to C/R his real hands in this spot, so I dunno, it sucks.

[cold_cash]

I'd check/call the flop.

If the turn went check/check/bet/call, I'd fold.

If the turn went check/check/bet/fold, I'd still want to fold.

[WillMagic]

WA/WB. I'm check-calling one bet on the flop and folding if the SB check-raises. After that my play depends on whether the SB sticks around, but the general idea is going to be check-call/check-call and then bet the river.

Will

[brettbrettr]

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WA/WB. I'm check-calling one bet on the flop and folding if the SB check-raises. After that my play depends on whether the SB sticks around, but the general idea is going to be check-call/check-call and then bet the river.

Will

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Are you calling a river raise from Brett? Remember, Brett knows this line too

This is what I thought was so interesting abou the hand, by the way. I guess I presented the hand like [censored], but assuming its 3 handed on the river, and you donk the river, and brett raises, wtf?

[TakeMeToTheRiver]

I don't know the specific players, but assuming this is the game I am familiar with and making certain assumptions about the players identities --

On the flop, if SB checks:
I check-call if SB calls
I check-fold if SB check-raises
I check-raise if SB folds

If SB bets out, I probably call (possibly fold) but expect to fold to a raise from PFR or on the turn UI.

[cassady]

I concur about folding preflop, however, given the call:

I think check the flop, consider folding if SB bets out. If UTG+1 bets, raise, to hopefully eliminate SB. If SB comes along, be affraid.

The turn is probably a bet/fold.

River, I'm kind of unsure about.

Maybe just doing a standard WA/WB line is better........