AK0 between two very interested TAGS

[brettbrettr]

SB in this hand is 18/10/1.8 over 1000 hands
CO is 17/10/2.2, also a significant sample

I haven't been here long and I haven't gotten out of line.

This might seem silly but I'm trying to rethink lots of stuff, but, how are we playing this flop?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>,

[Joe Tall]

You gave a read on the SB but it's the BB in the hand and the SB folded....but you are in a raise or fold situation and it looks like a fold.

[brettbrettr]

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You gave a read on the SB but it's the BB in the hand and the SB folded.

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you know what I meant
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[Borodog]

I presume the SB read is actually the BB.

Why didn't you cap preflop?

It appears that BB has some sort of mid pocket pair, since he called 2 cold but didn't reraise. 8s, 9s, Ts, maybe jacks.

You have two overs and a back door draw. Raising will probably not fold out a big pocket pair from the CO. But it might fold a medium pocket pair like 8s or 9s [Edit: although I'm not sure how this helps you if BB also has a PP]. It may clean out another AK to win you the whole pot instead of half. If you fold out the CO you may be able to freecard the turn. If you just call the CO may well raise, costing you 2 SBs anyway, and the BB may 3-bet, facing you with 2 cold after already paying one.

On the whole, I like a raise, but I may spew a lot in these kinds of situations. If I get raised I have bloated the pot where I have to call, though.

FWIW, I think the hand is easier to play if you capped preflop.

[pokerjunky]

I think CO most likely has an overpair and won't fold this flop even if you raise. The only hand you may want him to fold based on his likely PF 3-betting standards is AK but even so you still have to contend with BB. However, I think you are getting good odds to peel so a call is in order.

[Joe Tall]

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However, I think you are getting good odds to peel so a call is in order.


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He's sandwiched between aggressors, this is a horrible spot to just call.

[QTip]

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but you are in a raise or fold situation

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Why?

[brettbrettr]

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Why didn't you cap preflop?

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I don't always cap AKo in this spot, OOP and what not.

[pokerjunky]

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He's sandwiched between aggressors, this is a horrible spot to just call.

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CO may wait for a safe turn to raise and allow us to see it for only one bet. A raise will get called here a large majority of the time, and we stand the chance of getting 3-bet. With two overs and a backdoor nut flush draw in a largish pot I don't think folding is correct. Therefore calling &gt; folding &gt; raising IMO.

[brettbrettr]

These are good TAGs. If they're waiting to the turn to raise, it means my overs aren't worth chit.