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Old 10-20-2005, 07:22 PM
Big Dave D Big Dave D is offline
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Party Poker (7 handed) 5-10 blinds

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>. I call in early middle and Villain raises it 25 and I call. Villan is unknown, 24/5 PT stat after 50 hands, which doesnt mean much. He has 1k and I have him covered.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks. Villain bets half the pot and I call.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks. Obviously I was going for a check raise here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
I bet 125 into a 175 pot. Villan raises to 300 striaght leaving himself 650.

I moved all-in. Insane?

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:23 PM
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Why on earth would you ever try to get someone to lay down a 7 here?
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:23 PM
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I moved all-in. Insane?

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No, just stupid.
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?
What is your reasoning for a turn cr...doesnt seem to to have much +EV in the long run.
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:32 PM
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My read of the hand was that he didnt have a seven. I kinda convinced myself, rightly or wrongly, that he had interpreted my bet as being weak and wanted to move me off the hand. If I move in he can't call unless he has a 7.

Admittedly it didnt feel great.

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:34 PM
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If he contination bets the turn, he is really going to struggle to call unless he has a very strong hand. He could easily lay down overpairs here.

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:35 PM
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So we are expecting a min-raise from the villain with an overpair on the river?
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:38 PM
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I'm the first to admit my thinking here is muddled and contradictory. I'm a PLO player moving over to NL and lots of situations feel alien to me. Afterwards it did feel like an exceptionally dumb play. Comments on the other streets? Intended c-r on turn?

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:42 PM
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Elaborate?

River play to one side, how were the other streets and the intended c-r on the turn?

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Old 10-20-2005, 08:18 PM
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putting other guy on a hand without enough proof + courage=

money flusher

I strongly recommend you shift your gear down a bit or you will have to pay lotta speeding tickets.
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