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Old 10-17-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default $22: push over min raise with 33

he min raised my blind the previous orbit, so does that make this standard?

***** Hand History for Game 2890642766 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16658495 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, October 17, 13:46:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 67273 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: cdcco ( $1120 )
Seat 8: grizabe ( $2420 )
Seat 1: ccornell79 ( $2970 )
Seat 7: dlhughley ( $1490 )
Trny:16658495 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to grizabe [ 3h 3c ]
ccornell79 folds.
cdcco folds.
dlhughley raises [300].
grizabe is all-In [2220]
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

You have him covered and I think he folds it to you without putting his life at stake on the bubble, I like the play.
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

I don't think this is standard at all, although it certainly should be in your bag of tricks.

With 4 players left he can be min-raising with anything here. You have some FE against him, but he put 20% of his stack in with that raise, and with any kind of decent hand, especially a bigger PP, he won't hesitate putting the rest in.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

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I don't think this is standard at all, although it certainly should be in your bag of tricks.

With 4 players left he can be min-raising with anything here. You have some FE against him, but he put 20% of his stack in with that raise, and with any kind of decent hand, especially a bigger PP, he won't hesitate putting the rest in.

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so does that mean you like it or not?
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

I don't like this. I would rather be pushing any 2, than calling with a pair of 3's. of course having some knowledge prior to this hand would help. Thanks
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

It depends on the player
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

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I don't like this. I would rather be pushing any 2, than calling with a pair of 3's. of course having some knowledge prior to this hand would help. Thanks

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im not calling with 3s
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

I think with 77 this starts to become standard. The problem with 33 is that the only reasonable hand he could have that you're ahead of is A2. If he does call, you're a race at best and looking at a bigger pp at worst.
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

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It depends on the player

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8 tables, hard to be sure, ya know?
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Old 10-17-2005, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: $22: push over min raise with 33

I like it so long as you don't have a read that he minraises with monsters. He folds to the reraise about half the time in which case you're chip leader on the buble with two short stacks. He calls you're probably a coinflip. You win, you're chipleader ITM, you lose, you still have fold equity to push the next couple.

The fact that he minraised before is very important IMO.
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