AK0 between two very interested TAGS

[flair1239]

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but you are in a raise or fold situation

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Why?

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Yeah... why?

[flair1239]

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These are good TAGs. If they're waiting to the turn to raise, it means my overs aren't worth chit.

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Brett,

QQ, JJ, or TT may all elect to wait till the turn to go to war on this flop.

waiting to see if a over or a diamond hits.

At least I would. But I am just a TAG. Maybe some of the "good" TAGs can chime in

[McGahee]

I'm having a hell of a time putting BB on a hand here - maybe he's a better player than me because I can't really think of anything I'd play this way outside of maybe KQ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and even then I don't know if I risk folding one opponent and getting into a raising war with the other with probable dirty OC outs.
I'm pretty sure I hate raising in this spot because I don't think you're pushing CO off of anything but maybe AK after he 3-bets PF and you don't cap. In the heat of battle I probably call but I also think I peel too much.

[brettbrettr]

Good point, Flair.

[flair1239]

BTW, I favor folding here.

Too likely that the turn card that would give you your flush draw would also either complete a full house, make another flush that would make you pay through the nose to draw, and again further possible redraws by the other players (I am assuming (1) high pocket pair in the hand.

Coupled with the very real possibility that you are already close to dead against AA. or the slimmer possibility the flop bettor actually hit the lottery.

[Carmine]

I'm concerned about a "good tag" that just calls a 3-bet PF (granted he will be oop for the hand)and then has perfect position to protect with a check-raise, but opts to lead. How likely is AA/KK here.

[brettbrettr]

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I'm concerned about a "good tag" that just calls a 3-bet PF (granted he will be oop for the hand)and then has perfect position to protect with a check-raise, but opts to lead. How likely is AA/KK here.

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I'm not sure it all that likely. But 88-JJ seem well within his range.

[Carmine]

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I'm concerned about a "good tag" that just calls a 3-bet PF (granted he will be oop for the hand)and then has perfect position to protect with a check-raise, but opts to lead. How likely is AA/KK here.

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I'm not sure it all that likely. But 88-JJ seem well within his range.

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TT/JJ was my first thought judging by PF. I'm thinking he might fold less considering the opposition and would cap more. It's the flop that confuses me because I feel TT/JJ would check-raise to try and push out hero.

[brettbrettr]

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