KK vs. 3 allins

gp? · #1 05-01-2005, 08:57 PM

Just moved to this table and the few hands I had seen were all raised, so I tried this. Are those allins too scary to call with KK or do I call this everytime?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter

Hero (t5579)
UTG+1 (t2430)
MP1 (t1525)
MP2 (t5713)
MP3 (t2265)
CO (t5104)
Button (t3734)
SB (t2060)
BB (t3115)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls t100, 4 folds, CO raises to t200, Button calls t200, SB calls t150, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1000, CO raises to t5104, Button calls t3534 (All-In), SB calls t1860 (All-In), Hero ????

DJ Sensei · #2 05-01-2005, 09:15 PM

I'm inclined to call here, you're getting great odds with a great hand. Additionally, 2 of the callers are significantly below you in stack size, so even if one of them beats you, you're likely to take in a big side pot off of the big stack unless he has AA.

Because neither the button nor the SB raised, its probably unlikely that they have AA, but more likely a lower pair or perhaps even a drawing hand which they are playing with the good odds.

Also, its a good possibility that there are a few AQs, AJ's, or maybe even AK out there blocking each others ace outs.

Of note is the stage of the tournament is a big factor in the decision. From the looks of it, its near the first break or so, which makes it a tougher call. If this were in the money, a fold is a smarter play as you'll likely increase your prize by having a player or two knocked out. If the payout structure is near, its probably a good idea to call, as you could end up with a huge stack likely to cruise to the final table.

I'd say call unless its the final table or so.

ThrillFactor · #3 05-01-2005, 09:18 PM

This one's scary.

CO minraises you, sees u limp RR, and pushes over the top. Who knows what the other 2 have, but I worry about him.

IMO this is entirely read-specific on CO. If he is capable of making this play with something other than aces, i guess it's a call. But based solely on the action, I may give him the benefit of the doubt.

betgo · #4 05-01-2005, 10:55 PM

I think this is buyin dependent. At a very high buyin you might be able to fold this.