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Old 12-31-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Tricky turn decision, trickier river

No reads except stats which say this is pretty loose and passive over a small sample size.


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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls??

River: (7.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero???

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
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Old 12-31-2005, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

Very weird turn bet.. without a read I'd call it and see what his deal is.
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Old 12-31-2005, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

I'd play it the same. This move is almost always some pair. You have enough outs to call on the turn, and he doesn't have a K every time so the river is fine.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

The turn call is close, but I make it. I'd give you about 4 outs for the gutshot and 1.5 between your A and Q. So with approximately 5.5 outs, and getting 7:1 it's just a call. River is easy call.
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

Yeah i play this the same..call the river and hope he doesnt show something retarted like 22 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

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I think the turn decision is the trickier of the two actually.

River is an easy call.
turn is a call too....but you actually have to think about it.
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

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I think the turn decision is the trickier of the two actually.

River is an easy call.
turn is a call too....but you actually have to think about it.

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Heh, I just thought to myself that the turn was trickier than the river.

6.75BB pot, can expect to make up say 1.5BB when we hit, go we're getting 8.3:1 on a call. With 4 pretty clean straight outs, we only need a total of 1 out between our queens and aces, and it seems like we have well over 1 effective out from the 6 pair cards. Why would you say this is so close?
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

I don't think the turn decision is particularly close.

I don't think either decision is tricky actually...but if I had to rate them I'd say the river-decision is easier to immediately see. you actually have to use a few brain-cells to determine to make that call on the turn.
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Old 12-31-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

easy river call.

Krishan

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Old 12-31-2005, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Tricky turn decision, trickier river

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The turn call is close, but I make it. I'd give you about 4 outs for the gutshot and 1.5 between your A and Q. So with approximately 5.5 outs, and getting 7:1 it's just a call. River is easy call.

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It is a call but I think you are over discounting simply because monsters don't tend to play hands like this. So your pair outs are good more often than normal.

Krishan
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