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Old 12-28-2005, 09:36 PM
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Default $22: TT in early levels

I never know quite what to do with TT or 99 in early levels. Anyone raise this up here looking to isolate the limper with a weak ace or low pocket pair, or do you play it essentially for set value like I did?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t745)
UTG+1 (t755)
Hero (t940)
MP2 (t725)
MP3 (t705)
CO (t775)
Button (t1790)
SB (t955)
BB (t610)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero calls t15
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

I usually call here, usually raise with JJ and always with QQ.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

I would play it the same, for what it's worth. I usually limp in EP and raise in LP, with TT anyway.
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:15 PM
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I raise TT+ in this spot.
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

I don't raise with anything but QQ-AA in the first 2 levels (I might do a big move with AK if there are a bunch of limpers), but that's just me.

I limp 99-JJ given the right circumstances.
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

I strongly disagree witb those who say raise here. In a $22, if you raise to a "reasonable" amount, let's say 50, you will in all likelyhood get callers (which you don't want with TT since the flop will so often contain overcards). Sure, if you flop a set you're in business, but you would have been anyway if you had just limped.

Conversely, if you make a hefty raise to "isolate", then your raise plus an anticipated c-bet will be 1/4 of your stack or more.

IMO it just doesn't make sense to raise TT here. The opponents are so keen to hand over their stacks when you hit a set that you can play them "just" for set value. Most of the additional value that you get from raising preflop comes from getting the opponent to fold to a c-bet on the flop, in which case the fact that you have TT is irrelevant.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

I don't mind getting callers when holding TT. Just play some poker on the flop.

I raise to t75 every single time. I don't play the 800 chip games anymore. Obviously it might change the correct play, and I guess this type of play is a matter of opinion.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

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I don't mind getting callers when holding TT. Just play some poker on the flop.

I raise to t75 every single time. I don't play the 800 chip games anymore. Obviously it might change the correct play, and I guess this type of play is a matter of opinion.

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My statements are based on 800 chip SNGs, and that is a very important part of the equation. You just don't have enough of a stack to "play poker on the flop" like you are suggesting. If you are going to give advice that isn't directly related to the OP's situation you need to say so in your answer.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

Sure it's important. But If I think a given play can make me money, I make the play. The guide made by AleoMagus is fine, but it's very likely that it's not the most profitable way to play.

Just keep limping. Honestly I don't care. I gave my advice with the best thoughts.

And 800 chips is enough to play poker.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: $22: TT in early levels

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I gave my advice with the best thoughts.

And 800 chips is enough to play poker.

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You haven't said anything to justify this. You've only said "this is what I do".

I'm not saying "limp because Aleo's guide say's limp". I'm saying limp for the reasons I gave. You haven't given any explanations at all.
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