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Old 12-10-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Half your stack on a suited ace?

Third level in the Party Friday Special. Villian hasn't been at table long so I am without any reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop
UTG (t1200)
UTG+1 (t865)
UTG+2 (t3405)
Hero (t1075)
MP2 (t1125)
MP3 (t2985)
CO (t1710)
Button (t555)
SB (t1735)
BB (t610)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t90) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t55</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t580 (all in)</font>, Hero ???

I think this is a bluff or semibluff often enough that I should call. Also this could be a jack or worse ace. Who's making the call here?
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

Not me.
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Old 12-10-2005, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

I need a read to make this call.
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Old 12-10-2005, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

That bet screams flush draw to me, but that does not really mean I am calling, cause who knows in these damn things.
When I get check-raised by one of the blinds in an unraised pot I basically always give them credit for at least bottom two pair.
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

I put his range of hands as:

Two clubs, J3,

Just about any ace
- I'm ahead of A2, A4, A5, A6 and behind A3, A8, A9, AT, AJ, AQ... I'm thinking AK reraises preflop (maybe AQ) but it's still a posibility. Also I don't think AJ is pushing here with top two. So I really only think I'm behind A3, A8, A9, AT. Which gives me 4 aces I'm ahead of and 4 I'm behind.

Also throw in the chance he is bluffing because he thinks I don't have anything and was just betting because I had position and this makes it pretty close to a call.
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

I fold this PF- and for this exact reason.
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:08 AM
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a definite pre-flop fold.. people don't play these hands in MP for precisely this reason.. it's hard to tell where you're at when the ace hits
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

Looks like you already decided to stay with it, and are making arguments for it. If you feel you have a good read then go for it.
Unlike the others I will play Ax preflop, however I always get out unless I hit two pair, or a pair plus nut flush draw.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

crappy situation all around.

His push is Ax X&gt;7 as often as it is a flush draw. Not really enough in the pot for this call. 100 chips more, and I would call.
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: Half your stack on a suited ace?

[ QUOTE ]
Looks like you already decided to stay with it, and are making arguments for it. If you feel you have a good read then go for it.
Unlike the others I will play Ax preflop, however I always get out unless I hit two pair, or a pair plus nut flush draw.

[/ QUOTE ]

This sounds like chip spewing to me.
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