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Old 03-19-2005, 04:44 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default How much respect do I give this guy?

5/10 live game at the casino morongo.
UTG is a supertight old player who has only pushed in twice, once with a set on the turn and the other time with a nut flush. I've seen him play K10 suited for a decent pot, but only with position and he doesn't even raise with QQ in MP preflop. Button is just a complete idiot-he's called my reraise for $200 preflop with A5 suited and puts in a small raise on the button every hand.
UTG has $1000, Button has $4000, I have $3300.
I'm dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the big blind. UTG limps. Folded to the button who makes it 25. I call, UTG calls.
Flop comes down K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I check, UTG bets 35, Button calls. I raise to $135. UTG and button call.
Turn comes K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I bet out for $120, two callers.
River comes 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
At this point, I'm worried about what UTG could have so I check. I check, he immediately moves all-in for $720. Button folds. Do I call or fold in this spot?
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Old 03-19-2005, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

i would fold here. fast. but i surely would not have CRed this flop...
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

you're getting over 2-1 on your money....He could have k-j, k-10, or some other hand...I think you need to call
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

Another factor, is that this guy previously pushed all in on the turn when he had a set....Call!
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

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you're getting over 2-1 on your money....He could have k-j, k-10, or some other hand...I think you need to call

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this is a fold and its not close.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

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this is a fold and its not close.

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care to elaborate?....I think you are wrong...It's definitely close...
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

On another note, i really hate the check on the river here (unless the button is a habitual bluffer like me).
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

i would have bet 250 or so on the river into him, as he will just call with a weaker K if your hand is good.

he could have flopped a set and looked to jam the turn to out-price the diamond draw, but he managed to fill up and wanted the idiot button to come along and pay him off on the river.

2-1 on your call isn't enough here to make the crying call i dont think, as i expect your hand to be good a far less time than that.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

What have you put him on? a full house or AK?
Could you elaborate a little on this "Its not even close"?
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: How much respect do I give this guy?

I guess I should add I definitely put the button on diamonds and was ready to pick off any bet he might make, though he isn't a huge bluffer so I didn't think I'd need to.
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